The Ayrton Senna x TAG Heuer Appreciation Thread

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Buy in Japan around 1990 and personnaly Painted 1/12 Ayrton Resin made


Just painted my 1/20th scale Ayrton figure. Which I also purchased in the '90s, along with some model kits. All of which were left unmade when Senna died, because I was just too sad. Building the Lego McLaren earlier this year got me motivated again to make them.
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More photos in the Model Cars Thread:
https://tagheuerforums.com/threads/model-cars.124971/page-17#post-2370847
 
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Beautiful watches but I'm not a fan of Senna. Very talented but lacked courage and integrity. In 1990 he was just ahead of Allan Prost for the season championship. He purposely crashed into Prost in the last race at the Japan GP in the first turn of the race. Knocked both out of the race to secure his Championship. Senna was scared to race.

Contrast that with Ted Williams when he was trying to bat 400 in 1941. Last day of the year, his manager offered to let him not play which would cause his 399.6 average to round to 400. If he had a bad day at the plate the average would have dropped. Ted risked reaching the magic number and played. He played well both games of a double-hitter and raised his average to 406. Now that a man of courage and integrity. Senna? Not so much.
 
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Beautiful watches but I'm not a fan of Senna. Very talented but lacked courage and integrity. In 1990 he was just ahead of Allan Prost for the season championship. He purposely crashed into Prost in the last race at the Japan GP in the first turn of the race. Knocked both out of the race to secure his Championship. Senna was scared to race.

Contrast that with Ted Williams when he was trying to bat 400 in 1941. Last day of the year, his manager offered to let him not play which would cause his 399.6 average to round to 400. If he had a bad day at the plate the average would have dropped. Ted risked reaching the magic number and played. He played well both games of a double-hitter and raised his average to 406. Now that a man of courage and integrity. Senna? Not so much.
The crash at Suzuka in 1990 certainly wasn't Senna's finest hour.

However, I don't feel it was because Senna was scared to race. There's no doubt in my mind that Senna was giving payback to Prost and also then FIA President Balestre for what happened the year before in Japan. Also, for the FIA placing Senna's pole position on the dusty side of the track, which allowed Prost to take the lead in the 1990 Japanese GP. Not a great way to win the championship, but I think all that pent up anger & frustration from how he felt he was unjustly treated got the better of him.

I feel James Hunt summed it best by calling Senna a genius, but a flawed genius.
 
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Just painted my 1/20th scale Ayrton figure. Which I also purchased in the '90s, along with some model kits. All of which were left unmade when Senna died, because I was just too sad. Building the Lego McLaren earlier this year got me motivated again to make them.
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More photos in the Model Cars Thread:
https://tagheuerforums.com/threads/model-cars.124971/page-17#post-2370847
Backside of the figure.


Plus, a bonus shot with my Shell Oil edition F1 watch.
 
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Two of these watches were offered to Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna by a McLaren Exec in the late 80’s. The Frenchman kept his but I was lucky enough to obtain the Brazilian’s timepiece through a friend.
 
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Two of these watches were offered to Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna by a McLaren Exec in the late 80’s. The Frenchman kept his but I was lucky enough to obtain the Brazilian’s timepiece through a friend.
Nice!
 
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Two of these watches were offered to Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna by a McLaren Exec in the late 80’s. The Frenchman kept his but I was lucky enough to obtain the Brazilian’s timepiece through a friend.
So you own the F1 Chrono personally owned & worn by Senna, pictured above?

That is so awesome!!! ::rimshot::👍
 
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Speaking of Prost, I finally got around to painting a model figure I bought at the time I got my Senna figure (over 30 years ago).


So now my 1988 McLaren dream team is complete. 😀

1988 was my favorite of Senna's championships. Having stalled at the start of the '88 Japanese GP, it looked like an easy win for Prost. Senna eventually got his car going but was down in 14th place. However, the changing wet & dry conditions brought out the best in Senna, as he caught and ultimately passed Prost for the win and world championship!

I also just added the 1/18 AUTOart McLaren MP4/6 to my collection. Senna's 1991 Championship winning car.

I put more pics of the AUTOart McLaren MP4/6 in the model cars thread:
https://tagheuerforums.com/threads/model-cars.124971/page-18#post-2374633
 
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a picture of ayrton wearing the proto of the grey Senna dial 6000 series, but with a steel bandstrap


 
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Speaking of Prost, I finally got around to painting a model figure I bought at the time I got my Senna figure (over 30 years ago).


So now my 1988 McLaren dream team is complete. 😀

1988 was my favorite of Senna's championships. Having stalled at the start of the '88 Japanese GP, it looked like an easy win for Prost. Senna eventually got his car going but was down in 14th place. However, the changing wet & dry conditions brought out the best in Senna, as he caught and ultimately passed Prost for the win and world championship!

I also just added the 1/18 AUTOart McLaren MP4/6 to my collection. Senna's 1991 Championship winning car.
Again, great job Michael! 🥰 👍 Congrats, and also for the Autoart model 🥰

It’s nice to have completed the Senna-Prost team 😀 First Senna’s Title in 1988 is so valuable precisely because he won it from Prost, and also the 1990 Title. It is curious that after their great and tense rivalry they ended up being good friends, and even Prost being an ambassador of the Instituto Ayrton Senna 👍

 
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BTW, I found this nice picture where the TAG Heuer logo is very prominent 👍

 
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Again, great job Michael! 🥰 👍 Congrats, and also for the Autoart model 🥰

It’s nice to have completed the Senna-Prost team 😀 First Senna’s Title in 1988 is so valuable precisely because he won it from Prost, and also the 1990 Title. It is curious that after their great and tense rivalry they ended up being good friends, and even Prost being an ambassador of the Instituto Ayrton Senna 👍

Thanks a lot Albert!

Had Senna lived, I believe he and Prost would still be good friends today. I actually like Prost; I just like Senna way more.

Prost has said he was unhappy with the 2010 Senna movie because it didn't show their friendship at the end. I hope that the upcoming Netflix series will be more balanced, showing both sides of the story. Like the movie Rush did with Lauda & Hunt. But as it's produced by Netflix Brazil, I have a feeling they will paint Prost in a poor light again.
 
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The reason I'm worried about the Netflix series is because the teaser shows a glimpse of a confrontational exchange between Senna and Prost at about 1:04. Here Senna says, "you are a coward" "don't touch me".

However, I believe they are taking some real-life comments out of context, mixing it together in a fictional way for dramatic effect.

The "coward" remark comes from a '92 post-race interview where Senna shows his frustration at Prost having a contract with Williams for '93 which specifically doesn't allow Senna as a teammate. Noted at the 2:07 mark in this video:

The "don't touch me" comes from after his emotional Brazilian GP home win in '91. Having to drive many laps with his gearbox stuck in 6th gear, he was in physical pain at the end of the race. Everyone was cheering him in the garage, patting him on the back etc. But he didn't want anyone to touch him. Seen at the 4:22 mark in this video:

This is why I have a feeling the Netflix series will again make Prost out to be the bad guy. But I hope I'm wrong and it will show a more balanced view of both sides.

Having been engrossed in their rivalry at the time it happened, and not really taking a side, I feel they each brought out the best and worst in each other. Both men have said and done things that they're probably not proud of. I also believe both men wanted to reconcile, with Senna extending the olive branch by pulling Prost up onto the top podium in their last race together at the end of '93 when Prost retired. It was from that point on that the two started to become friends.
 
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another pic of the "karting area" watch, some more info, colored brown or gold dial...
 
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A question for the group, please -- Do we believe that Senna actually wore the Reference 565.306 2000 Series Quartz Chronograph, as one of his personal watches, or did he only wear it for TAG Heuer catalog photos, promotional materials, etc.?

Thanks in advance for any information about Senna's connection to this watch.

Jeff


 
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A question for the group, please -- Do we believe that Senna actually wore the Reference 565.306 2000 Series Quartz Chronograph, as one of his personal watches, or did he only wear it for TAG Heuer catalog photos, promotional materials, etc.?

Thanks in advance for any information about Senna's connection to this watch.

Jeff


I've looked at hundreds of images during my research on Senna's watches. That promotional photo is the only time I've seen Senna wearing that specific model. He did wear the white dial Super 2000 Chrono at the Brazilian GP in 1989, but I've never seen him wear the black dial version during a GP weekend or elsewhere.


The car pictured is the McLaren Honda MP4/5B, from the 1990 F1 season, Senna's second WDC. In the 16 races that season, Senna was either wearing the cream dial S/EL S25.706 or gray dial S/EL S25.206. The following photos were taken at each race of the 1990 season:

US GP

Brazil

San Marino

Monaco

Canada

Mexico

France

Britain

Germany

Hungary

Belgium

Italy

Portugal

Spain

Japan

Australia


Hence my belief is that the watch in question was worn more likely for promotional purposes. Or if it was part of Ayrton's personal collection, it certainly wasn't a favorite like the S/EL or 6000.
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