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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorPitlane start for Sprint Race? Then another 5-grid drop for Sunday Race?
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kappa_md
·I’m sure LH will move up places 😉 He has the “faster” car! Don’t be sad, be excited! 👍
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Yago
·Checo is such a lame duck. Painful to watch.
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·From 20 to 5! 😲
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·From 20 to 5! 😲
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·Yup the Merc is so much faster than the competition. He will be up Max's ass in no time tomorrow!
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·And Hamilton has the “slower car” on top of that! 😲
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Albert-AMG
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorInteresting article… I can understand why Toto was so furious! 🤬
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...MfZMqbWhCnoMDOVs-WuO1BTYJIcEstDr6RpyFrqUmxpmk
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...MfZMqbWhCnoMDOVs-WuO1BTYJIcEstDr6RpyFrqUmxpmk
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·Yeah that Merc is a real 'truck' isn't it? 🙄
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·After watching the sprint race where Max was pole and VB starting the grid at 2nd, Max easily gave the position to VB so Max can finish the race at 2nd ☕ Max didn’t even try fighting for it. Front row 2nd grid seems to be a better position starting the race on Sunday than pole 😗
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·Toto showing his true face. Can’t imagine Horner saying anything like that. Toto would be the first to protest if RB would have gotten away with even 0.1mm. What hypocrisy.
The merc is still the dominant car but as RB creeps closer and momentum builds for the RB/Max combo merc starts playing the underdog game about their wings being clipped, RB being faster and the stewards treating them badly. Trumpian stuff.
The merc is still the dominant car but as RB creeps closer and momentum builds for the RB/Max combo merc starts playing the underdog game about their wings being clipped, RB being faster and the stewards treating them badly. Trumpian stuff.
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorToto is not angry with the Stewards but with the Technical Delegate. That same wing (and also Bottas’ wing) had passed previous checks with no problem, but was damaged during quali and failed by 0.2mm (!!) in just one part of the right side of the wing because of the damage, not because of the wing/DRS designed that way. Toto says that other teams are usually allowed to fix this kind of damages (under Parc Fermé condition before the start of next session or race), other than reported to the Stewards.
Toto Wolff:
“Looking at the penalty: the car was tested yesterday and then two hours before today's race, we got the information that we had been disqualified. That was disappointing because there is a modus operandi in the sport, and we had a car that we do not consider was in breach of the technical regulations. In the past, we have seen teams given permission to repair this kind of failure, and at the last two race weekends, we have seen permission granted to make repairs to damaged wings during the qualifying session, which equally operates under parc fermé. We believe our wing was damaged on track but instead we were reported to the Stewards. After that, the Stewards did the job they were asked to and their argument needs to be respected; therefore, we decided not to appeal, also because it would have put the entire weekend's results at risk, and we must take it on the chin and understand that this goes both ways”
Toto Wolff:
“Looking at the penalty: the car was tested yesterday and then two hours before today's race, we got the information that we had been disqualified. That was disappointing because there is a modus operandi in the sport, and we had a car that we do not consider was in breach of the technical regulations. In the past, we have seen teams given permission to repair this kind of failure, and at the last two race weekends, we have seen permission granted to make repairs to damaged wings during the qualifying session, which equally operates under parc fermé. We believe our wing was damaged on track but instead we were reported to the Stewards. After that, the Stewards did the job they were asked to and their argument needs to be respected; therefore, we decided not to appeal, also because it would have put the entire weekend's results at risk, and we must take it on the chin and understand that this goes both ways”
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·I understand his frustration. I read that there was no real precedent as quali was already over and the stewards didn’t confirm the infringement was due to damage, like with the RB wing last weekend. If it was 100% damage then I think a fix would’ve been enough.
I also believe there was no intent because it was a marginal breach that doesn’t explain the Merc speed gap. Lewis was flying during the sprint yesterday. At times a second a lap faster than Max. So I expect he’ll win or come very close. Only if Max jumps Valtteri and has a winning pit strategy will he be able to maintain the lead.
Merc and RB have been pretty on par this season. Since Austin it seems Merc have found fenomenal speed. On tracks where RB should be dominant Merc was in fact keeping pace or even outpacing. RB came out on top due to strategy and a bit of luck. In that sense the next races aren’t looking good for RB.
I also believe there was no intent because it was a marginal breach that doesn’t explain the Merc speed gap. Lewis was flying during the sprint yesterday. At times a second a lap faster than Max. So I expect he’ll win or come very close. Only if Max jumps Valtteri and has a winning pit strategy will he be able to maintain the lead.
Merc and RB have been pretty on par this season. Since Austin it seems Merc have found fenomenal speed. On tracks where RB should be dominant Merc was in fact keeping pace or even outpacing. RB came out on top due to strategy and a bit of luck. In that sense the next races aren’t looking good for RB.
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·So do we now have variable limits? the setting must X mm but +/- 0.Xmm, perhaps having a rider to the rules such as within tolerance for 95% of its width?
Some of the Lewis fan boys in the pub last night were overjoyed at his performance in the sprint race until I reminded them that normally he would be expected to lap some of the guys in a normal race. Some of them though would forgive him for sh*tting in their bed such is their love of Lewis.
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Some of the Lewis fan boys in the pub last night were overjoyed at his performance in the sprint race until I reminded them that normally he would be expected to lap some of the guys in a normal race. Some of them though would forgive him for sh*tting in their bed such is their love of Lewis.
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·Leaving circumstances aside, it doesn't matter if it was 0.2mm or 20mm. You either pass scrutineering or you don't. F1 teams always push everything to the max so they will make that gap 84.95mm. I wondered how they measured the gap, it was quite funny to read they simply push an 85mm (or presumably 85.05mm) disc on a stick through the hole. I guess they would call it a 'DRS Gauge'...
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·So do we now have variable limits? the setting must X mm but +/- 0.Xmm, perhaps having a rider to the rules such as within tolerance for 95% of its width?
Some of the Max fan boys in the pub last night were overjoyed at his performance in the sprint race until I reminded them that normally he would be expected to lap some of the guys in a normal race. Some of them though would forgive him for sh*tting in their bed such is their love of Lewis.
Max fanbois or Lewis fanbois???
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·Yeah but that is the idiocy of the sprint race. Everybody drives conservatively because they don’t want to damage their cars for the race on Sunday. Not a single incident or hard racing apart from Lewis. Nobody gave it a fight and let him pass on the straight with his superior drs speed. Everyone figured he needs to give up 5 spots anyway, certainly the Ferrari and Mclaren boys weren’t going to risk their WC battles over it.
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·Max fanbois or Lewis fanbois???
Although I suspect are both around.
Underground on some of conveyor anti runback devices we measured wear by using a go/nogo gauge, a steel rod machined to two different sizes, I suppose F1 may have something similar, although this time it evidently failed.
