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I live 380km from Interlagos. This year I can’t go. It is always special when I make it. 🫨
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·Brazilian GP drops #1:
Hamilton’s helmet. Guess what?
Hamilton’s helmet. Guess what?
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·Brazilian GP drops #2:
Max visiting his father-in-law.
Max visiting his father-in-law.
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·Has he been decorating in those boots n trousers, still slightly better than some of his apparel lately.
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·Amazing how Lewis was able to take 0.4 on Max in a slower car.
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·Amazing how Lewis was able to take 0.4 on Max in a slower car.
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Hamilton may have to start the sprint from the pitlane!
Hamilton may have to start the sprint from the pitlane!
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Hamilton may have to start the sprint from the pitlane!
Sneaky DRS 😉
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Hamilton may have to start the sprint from the pitlane!
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·That would be stupid.
This photo isn’t the parc fermé, right? This is just after quali when 1-3 cars are parked next to each other. You can see other people in the photo. Max appears to be walking over his RB?
This photo isn’t the parc fermé, right? This is just after quali when 1-3 cars are parked next to each other. You can see other people in the photo. Max appears to be walking over his RB?
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorThat would be stupid.
This photo isn’t the parc fermé, right? This is just after quali when 1-3 cars are parked next to each other. You can see other people in the photo. Max appears to be walking over his RB?
There’s a video where you can clearly see Max touching the rear wing of Hamilton’s car… so maybe both are starting the sprint race from the back 🍿
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·So it appears once the cars are parked after quali this is regarded as parc fermé. However the drivers need to get out of their cars and leave the place. It’s not exactly burglary. Max apparently checked the rear wings of both the RB and Merc.
Rule: “no operation, checking, tuning or repair is allowed unless authorised by the same officials or by the applicable regulations”.
Any penalty would be given lightly in thid case imo. You could argue he was ‘checking’. Whatever the outcome of both investigations, it will be contentious.
Rule: “no operation, checking, tuning or repair is allowed unless authorised by the same officials or by the applicable regulations”.
Any penalty would be given lightly in thid case imo. You could argue he was ‘checking’. Whatever the outcome of both investigations, it will be contentious.
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·If cheating with aerodynamics and gaining an advantage on track is penalized in the same way as touching a car on your way out of parc ferme well…
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorMercedes can argue that Hamilton’s DRS was fine before Max touched it… 😉
By touching the item which is under investigation in Parc Fermé, Max has altered the evidence, because he is not a technical scrutineer but a rival… It can be a costly mistake for Max. Some drivers should know the regulations better. Not an easy job for the Stewards now 🍿
Without Max touching Hamilton’s wing inside Parc Fermé, probably Hamilton was starting the sprint race from last position and Max from Pole Position, so the 2021 season was over… This decision (A) is still possible, but I think there are now two additional scenarios:
B. Hamilton scapes the penalty because the DRS that was found wrong -the evidence- was previously touched by Max in Parc Fermé, and Max is penalized for that action against 2.5.1
C. Hamilton is penalized because they think his DRS was wrong even before Max touched it, but Max is penalized same way for breaking the Parc Fermé rules 2.5.1. So both are starting the sprint race from back of the grid
In that cases B or C, we would have to give thanks to Max for that action in Parc Fermé, for keeping the 2021 season alive 😉
By touching the item which is under investigation in Parc Fermé, Max has altered the evidence, because he is not a technical scrutineer but a rival… It can be a costly mistake for Max. Some drivers should know the regulations better. Not an easy job for the Stewards now 🍿
Without Max touching Hamilton’s wing inside Parc Fermé, probably Hamilton was starting the sprint race from last position and Max from Pole Position, so the 2021 season was over… This decision (A) is still possible, but I think there are now two additional scenarios:
B. Hamilton scapes the penalty because the DRS that was found wrong -the evidence- was previously touched by Max in Parc Fermé, and Max is penalized for that action against 2.5.1
C. Hamilton is penalized because they think his DRS was wrong even before Max touched it, but Max is penalized same way for breaking the Parc Fermé rules 2.5.1. So both are starting the sprint race from back of the grid
In that cases B or C, we would have to give thanks to Max for that action in Parc Fermé, for keeping the 2021 season alive 😉
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·The rear wing wasn’t under investigation when Max touched it so the argument that he altered evidence has no merit.
It appears the DRS infringement is by design, not something Max would be able to change by touching it in any case. If Lewis used the same technique in Mexico or before then that should be investigated as well.
Lewis starting from the pitlane or back for the sprint race seems obvious.
The penalty for Max should be lighter but there will be one.
In any case even if Max starts from pole and Lewis from the back the WC is far from over. The season has shown how easily points can be lost and how starting from the back can still result in a podium or even p1 finish.
It appears the DRS infringement is by design, not something Max would be able to change by touching it in any case. If Lewis used the same technique in Mexico or before then that should be investigated as well.
Lewis starting from the pitlane or back for the sprint race seems obvious.
The penalty for Max should be lighter but there will be one.
In any case even if Max starts from pole and Lewis from the back the WC is far from over. The season has shown how easily points can be lost and how starting from the back can still result in a podium or even p1 finish.
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorThe rear wing wasn’t under investigation when Max touched it so the argument that he altered evidence has no merit.
The fact that Max did touch -under Parc Fermé conditions- the exact part of the Mercedes that was found wrong in the subsequent scrutineering -after Max touched it- and that is now under investigation, means the situation makes it far from straightforward.
Mercedes could well argue that a simple touch from an outside party could be enough to have dislodged something and triggered the DRS rules breach – even if such a theory seems quite far fetched.
They will only need Perry Mason to join the trial! 😁
This article is quite complete:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/key-issues-hamilton-verstappen-investigations/6776571/
