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·Yes, a very dramatic start. Glad Grosjean is OK. Amazing he walked away from that seeing the wreckage of his car.
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorThank God and the car's halo that Grosjean did not sustain major injuries in that horrific crash!
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El Matarife
·I didn't think anybody could survive that crash. Then Grosjean leaps out of the flames like the terminator. Incredible mental strength from Romain, incredible engineering ability from Haas and the world of F1. Never seen a fireball impact like that outside of the archives of the 60's and 70's.
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·The car was literally split into two causing fuel to spill out and therfore the fire. Good to know that only minor burns were sustained after the crash. No fractures, no inhalational injuries etc. Props to the FIA / F1 safety and advancement in technology. A single life is much more than anything above the sport.
This might be an eye-opener to some after this horrific accident, now that Grosjean is a given a second-lease. I pray he recovers well and hopefully none like this happens again.
This might be an eye-opener to some after this horrific accident, now that Grosjean is a given a second-lease. I pray he recovers well and hopefully none like this happens again.
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Michael156
·Unbelievable race. I thought Istanbul was good but Bahrain really changed the dynamics...
Who says auto racing isn’t perilous anymore.
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Who says auto racing isn’t perilous anymore.
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·Also have to give credit to a double podium for Red Bull Racing & TAG Heuer 👍👍
Congratulations to Max & Alex! TAG Heuer
Congratulations to Max & Alex! TAG Heuer
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·Commiserations to Sergio who should have been 3rd and who should be driving for RB next year.
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·One thing I thought was slightly amusing was Grosjean being awarded "driver of the day". No doubt he was a winner in the sense of walking away from that terrible accident, but he did kind of cause the accident didn't he by swooping across the circuit?
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·Yes, it is unfortunate, with his aggressive right overtake. Kyvat was at the receiving end from this although he was at fault that caused a DNF for Stroll on another accident saved by the Halo again.
Probably for Grosjean, it’s about time to pause and take a break from Formula 1.
Probably for Grosjean, it’s about time to pause and take a break from Formula 1.
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·One thing I thought was slightly amusing was Grosjean being awarded "driver of the day". No doubt he was a winner in the sense of walking away from that terrible accident, but he did kind of cause the accident didn't he by swooping across the circuit?
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·I thought Chandok's video was quite insightful...
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·The car was literally split into two causing fuel to spill out and therfore the fire. Good to know that only minor burns were sustained after the crash. No fractures, no inhalational injuries etc. Props to the FIA / F1 safety and advancement in technology. A single life is much more than anything above the sport.
This might be an eye-opener to some after this horrific accident, now that Grosjean is a given a second-lease. I pray he recovers well and hopefully none like this happens again.
There's been lots of media focus on what didn't happen. And not enough on what did - that a man is safe and well. Partly due to good fortune, but thanks to a very large extent to human achievement. Which is the best possible outcome. The media likes to imagine worst case scenarios, to give it something to rage about and demonise in the name of 'social justice'. Even the BBC is running headlines that F1 has "soul-searching to do". No, it doesn't! Because, unlike the BBC, F1 has its shit together and is a professional organisation!
Sorry for rant 😀
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·I think it was one of those things. In hindsight was it a great idea to have the barrier at that angle to the track? No. If the barrier was parallel with the track Grosjean would have hit it hard but slid along and ripped the side off. Would anyone ever expect anyone to hit that barrier? No. Unless you put tecpro barriers everywhere there's always a possibility of an issue.
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·They did indicate that some debris from Stroll's car may have hit Grosjean's. But it does look like Grosjean just made an unnecessarily aggressive change of direction, causing the collision with Kvyat, which pitched him into the wall. A simple driver error.
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·Yeah, it should be Perez
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·I think it was one of those things. In hindsight was it a great idea to have the barrier at that angle to the track? No. If the barrier was parallel with the track Grosjean would have hit it hard but slid along and ripped the side off. Would anyone ever expect anyone to hit that barrier? No. Unless you put tecpro barriers everywhere there's always a possibility of an issue.
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·A relative newcomer to F1 =
Not sure Grosjean has the confidence and talent for world class competition.
Yes, Perez’s performance was exceptional, but the race is still about the team...and the car.
Alex Albon, new talent that very well may lay the cornerstone of the next generation. Glad to see him there.
Not sure Grosjean has the confidence and talent for world class competition.
Yes, Perez’s performance was exceptional, but the race is still about the team...and the car.
Alex Albon, new talent that very well may lay the cornerstone of the next generation. Glad to see him there.
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·I completely understand how different people see this incident in different perspectives. It’s good to discuss this because there are still ways to improve the situation.
I’d like to think of recent “near death experiences” of F1 drivers due to horrific crash but came out walking afterwards. Thanks to a big leap in safety advancements/technology after Senna’s death that became a catalyst and catapulted to what it is today.
1. Alonso’s air spin in Melbourne 2016 (No Halo)
2. Ericsson’s DRS malfunction crash in Monza 2018 (with Halo)
3. Leclerc & Alonso in Belgium 2018 (with Halo)
Formula 1 is a motor “sport” first and foremost than entertainment. The principles of “sports” like fairplay, adherence to rules etc are and should be inherent. Lives should be paramount more than anything else. No one needlessly die in sports. But these are risks athletes are willing to take. But again, these are also extreme circumstances with speeds more than 300km/h and always trying to defy what is the limit.
I’d like to think of recent “near death experiences” of F1 drivers due to horrific crash but came out walking afterwards. Thanks to a big leap in safety advancements/technology after Senna’s death that became a catalyst and catapulted to what it is today.
1. Alonso’s air spin in Melbourne 2016 (No Halo)
2. Ericsson’s DRS malfunction crash in Monza 2018 (with Halo)
3. Leclerc & Alonso in Belgium 2018 (with Halo)
Formula 1 is a motor “sport” first and foremost than entertainment. The principles of “sports” like fairplay, adherence to rules etc are and should be inherent. Lives should be paramount more than anything else. No one needlessly die in sports. But these are risks athletes are willing to take. But again, these are also extreme circumstances with speeds more than 300km/h and always trying to defy what is the limit.
