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·Well, looks like Sainz is going to get the vacated Ferrari seat. 🍿
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·If Vettel wants to win the title, Mercedes is his best shot. Perhaps he figures if he's going to beat Hamilton, at least having the same car gives him the best chance.
But my hunch is that if Vettel does move to Mercedes and Hamilton stays, Hamilton will come out on top. Ricciardo was already outperforming Vettel at RedBull. So I doubt Vettel will be keen to face Max back at RB. Mercedes seems like his only move.
Another potential scenario is that Vettel and Hamilton swap teams. There's a certain magical aura that lures drivers to Ferrari, so one never knows.
Honestly, my feeling is that Vettel is past his prime. He could very well retire if he doesn't get the right drive.
I whole-heartedly agree on this sir! 👍 His mistakes are signs of his aging & probably past his peak. But i do hope he can give Hamilton some nerve wracking battle if he switches to Mercedes. I feel that part of Bottas’ contract is to play second to Hamilton, sadly.. 🙁
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·Vettel v Hamilton in the same car.... never gonna happen. Unfortunately, these days drivers seem massively unwilling to race each other in the same equipment as it damages their 'value' if they lose. See Ricciardo fleeing Red Bull for Renault, which made no sense except that he didn't want to race Max in the same car - especially when it was pretty clear that Max was Red Bull's priority - and let's face it Red Bull has 'form' for that with Vettel/Webber.
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorBut my hunch is that if Vettel does move to Mercedes and Hamilton stays, Hamilton will come out on top.
Honestly, my feeling is that Vettel is past his prime. He could very well retire if he doesn't get the right drive.
I agree. Hamilton was beating Vettel even in some races where Ferrari was more competitive than Mercedes...
During these last two years, Vettel was “cracking under pressure”: making many mistakes, and being moraly destroyed by Hamilton, and last year also by Leclerc... Some people says Sainz could go to Ferrari, so maybe Vettel could swap team with Sainz. We have to remember that McLaren will be again powered by Mercedes in 2021... so this is maybe his only good option, or retirement
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Albert-AMG
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorI feel that part of Bottas’ contract is to play second to Hamilton, sadly.. 🙁
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·There’s no need of this contract part (this part did exist in Ferrari with Schumacher and his second drivers Irvine, Barrichello, Massa): Hamilton is winning the titles by himself, not by team orders or contracts. Bottas is free to race Hamilton from the start of the season, and in fact Bottas was taking points from Hamilton in some 2018 and 2019 races. Only after the middle (or later) of the season, if there’s only one clear candidate for the Title (who is usually Hamilton, because he is more regular and constant than Bottas), the Mercedes team is giving team orders to avoid stupid gifts to rivals, which makes sense... but Bottas is not playing second to Hamilton by contract but because of his results during the season
Nonetheless, contract or not, i still feel sad for Bottas. He is undeniably the 2nd driver, not equal, given the treatment of Mercedes to him. As F1 fans, we want to see them race right? Look at the years of Hamilton & Rosberg during the start of the turbo hybrid era. 2016, out ot 21 races, either of them won 19 GPs that year! (90.5%) Purely dominant team and racing rivalry of the two.* They didn’t win only because of DNF in the 2 other races. But i agree, given the same car with Hamilton, Bottas should’ve proven himself by now. Hamilton is just so consistent and he is truly at a master-class level!
**Only eclipsed by the 1988 McLaren team of Senna & Prost. 15 out of 16 races won! (93.8%) The only race they didn’t win is also due to DNF.
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·Vettel leaves Ferrari for 2021.
Sainz leaves McLaren and joins Ferrari for a 2 year deal.
Ricciardo leaves Renault and joins McLaren at the start of the McLaren-Mercedes engine partnership.
So who is the next piece of the puzzle to move?
And which move? 🍿
Sainz leaves McLaren and joins Ferrari for a 2 year deal.
Ricciardo leaves Renault and joins McLaren at the start of the McLaren-Mercedes engine partnership.
So who is the next piece of the puzzle to move?
And which move? 🍿
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·I really hope the move for Ricciardo works out for him and McLaren. It has been really sad to see McLaren languishing the way they have been for the last few seasons.
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·I really hope the move for Ricciardo works out for him and McLaren. It has been really sad to see McLaren languishing the way they have been for the last few seasons.
Yes i do want to see McLaren fight and mixed up the top 3. The gap is just huge after the top 3 teams. All the other race car drivers were just battling out for the, “best of the rest”
McLaren has won
8 Constructor Championships
12 Driver Championships
TEAM Championships
McLaren-Honda - 4 (1988-1991)
McLaren-TAG (Porsche) - 2 (1984-1985)
McLaren-Ford (Cosworth) - 1 (1974)
McLaren-Mercedes - 1 (1999)
So far, ALL the years they’ve won a constructor championship, at the same time, their drivers also won that year’s championship,
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··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorYes, McLaren is doing two nice improvements for 2021: Ricciardo for Sainz, and Mercedes for Renault, so it should be competitive again.
Being McLaren my second favourite team after Mercedes, I’m very happy to see again a McLaren-Mercedes in 2021, remembering great times and the 1998, 1999, and 2008 Titles with Hakkinen and Hamilton! 👍
Being McLaren my second favourite team after Mercedes, I’m very happy to see again a McLaren-Mercedes in 2021, remembering great times and the 1998, 1999, and 2008 Titles with Hakkinen and Hamilton! 👍
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··TAG Heuer Forums Moderatorhttps://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/02/f1-auto-racing-to-resume/
F1 to return July 5 with two races at the Austrian GP
Double-header will kick off a season that could still be 15-18 races long
F1 to return July 5 with two races at the Austrian GP
Double-header will kick off a season that could still be 15-18 races long
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El Matarife
·Nonetheless, contract or not, i still feel sad for Bottas. He is undeniably the 2nd driver, not equal, given the treatment of Mercedes to him. As F1 fans, we want to see them race right? Look at the years of Hamilton & Rosberg during the start of the turbo hybrid era. 2016, out ot 21 races, either of them won 19 GPs that year! (90.5%) Purely dominant team and racing rivalry of the two.* They didn’t win only because of DNF in the 2 other races. But i agree, given the same car with Hamilton, Bottas should’ve proven himself by now. Hamilton is just so consistent and he is truly at a master-class level!
**Only eclipsed by the 1988 McLaren team of Senna & Prost. 15 out of 16 races won! (93.8%) The only race they didn’t win is also due to DNF.
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·Now for the revised Williams- RokIt sponsorship going to Mercedes
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·From a business perspective, I can understand why companies who invest millions of sponsorship capital - marketing in F1 teams would like to go to “winning” / “successful” partners. But then again, we have also seen that there are alot of “shady” sponsors roaming in F1 capitalizing worldwide exposure / publicity (eg Rich Energy etc)
From a Formula 1 fan perspective, I hope Williams as a team can push thru with F1 even without a big company sponsor backing them up. Need to show more grit, outwit and sheer passion to be back on the winning ways.
Is it true that ROKIT is already a sponsor with Mercedes-AMG?
From a Formula 1 fan perspective, I hope Williams as a team can push thru with F1 even without a big company sponsor backing them up. Need to show more grit, outwit and sheer passion to be back on the winning ways.
Is it true that ROKIT is already a sponsor with Mercedes-AMG?
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·7 Days to Go. The Long Wait is Over. The Race is On 👍
Race & Race. #WeRaceAsOne
Race & Race. #WeRaceAsOne
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·Confused for a moment until I realised it was 2019 on the poster, dovey me🤦
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·Confused for a moment until I realised it was 2019 on the poster, dovey me🤦
Sorry about that, it was a Rewind of last year’s Austrian GP recently shown to drum up the hype of F1’s start next weekend. 😁
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·I still remember Senna curbing it to let Berger and Alboretto through for a Ferrari 1-2. At Monza no less! Reality serves up better drama than script writers ever could!
