2021 F1 Discussions

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😵‍💫 Please don’t compare Senna with Schumacher saying that Senna was “also a dirty driver”. Schumacher was in another league, the dirtiest driver ever… FIA even changed the regulations because of him (adding the option to remove points from previous races), to avoid another fraud like the Schumacher-Hill in Australia 1994, and FIA even had to apply that new rule to Schumacher when he tried to do the same with Villeneuve in Jerez 1997 and all his points were removed from the 1997 season.

Senna was hard but not dirty, and he didn’t take out two oponents in two consecutive WC final races: in 1989 was Prost who took out Senna, and in 1990 Senna gave it back (to Prost and to Balestre). It was a 1-1 not a 2-0 😉, and Prost was who started the game, helped by Jean-Marie Balestre (FISA/FIA) 😒

I don’t agree at all: even when Mercedes was the clearly dominant car, at least Lewis had to fight with his teammate, and he had nice battles with Nico Rosberg (losing the Title with him in 2016), and also Valtteri was able to fight for Poles and for victories with no team orders unless the competition with another team (Ferrari during two different seasons, and now Red Bull) eventually made it necessary… but where was the battle during the Schumacher/Ferrari dominance years from 2000 to 2004? Excepting 2003 (fighting with Kimi on the McLaren-Mercedes), Schumacher was racing and winning alone during those years, easy Titles having his teammate Barrichello tied by contract and prohibited from being ahead of Schumacher since the first race of the season, even when there was no threat from any other team



IMO those were by far the most boring years in F1, and the easiest streak for a driver with a dominant car who didn't have to fight even with his teammate

I agree, and I’m very happy and very proud of my favourite car brand for that 😀
Winning 8 constructors' Titles in a row would be another historic achievement 🙄

I also agree about Senna being a hard and aggressive driver (besides being a genius), but it doesn’t mean he was a dirty driver. Schumacher was a dirty driver, the dirtiest ever. No other driver has received such a penalty in F1 history as Schumacher for what he did in Jerez 1997 with Villeneuve, which was in fact a repetition of what he did in Australia 1994 with Hill to get his first Title (it was even a worse action than in Jerez). I don’t like Schumacher at all because of his dirty tactics to win a championship, or a Pole Position in Monaco. F1 is of course very professional but if we still want to call it a 'sport', not everything should be allowed in order to win.

For this reason I don’t like that a dirty driver like Schumacher is known as the driver with more F1 Titles (we are not talking about the GOAT thing here. Drivers with less Titles like Senna, Fangio, Clark… are always ahead of Schumacher and Hamilton in those GOAT standings), and for this reason I would like Hamilton to win his 8th Title and surpass Schumacher on that as well… for the sake of sport 👍

Great lap by Max and great team (tow) work with Checo 👍

Anyway the different tyre strategy could be the key tomorrow… with Max (and Checo) starting on Softs and Lewis (and Valtteri) on Mediums, Max was going to lead the race after the first lap even starting 2nd, so it’s not a big difference if it were Lewis or Max on Pole. We will see who made the right tyre choice tomorrow… the different strategy makes the race even more interesting 🍿

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