2021 F1 Discussions

imagwai

Horner's attempts to influence the race director

Jim Dollares

All teams do this constantly though? Doesn't make it right but cant really blame RB for playing the F1 politics, just like everyone else

connected1976

😎

imagwai

After the dust has settled, I'm firmly of the opinion the coming together was a racing incident. I think Max would have tried to do the same if the situation was reversed and his criticism of Hamilton's celebrations caused my estimation of him to go down considerably. Likewise Horner's attempts to influence the race director, and both these actions probably prompted at least some of the abuse that Hamilton later had to endure.

imagwai

Maybe airing these conversations like they did at this GP isn't the way to go

Mspeedster

before anyone knew what Max would say later or what Horner might have been saying behind the scenes to the race director.

Jim Dollares

I've read others state this too, I agree completely that these discussions shouldn't be aired to the public.

Mspeedster

I feel that had very little to do with it. Hamilton brought the abuse upon himself by his over the top celebrations at the end of the race.

This is what I call being a poor winner and it was on display for the world to see before anyone knew what Max would say later or what Horner might have been saying behind the scenes to the race director.

imagwai

both these actions probably prompted at least some of the abuse that Hamilton later had to endure.

Yago

This was a first I think. Very interesting to get this glimpse behind the scenes. Wolff was also spamming Masi, not just Horner. Part of the game.

Yago

Wolff also tried to influence Masi with his emails and call. He also went up to the office.

imagwai

Yes I know. I don't agree with that either. It's like football players hounding the referee. They shouldn't be allowed to do it. It was just something about the way Horner lodged his complaint that really grated with me.

I can also fully understand Max being aggrieved but in the cold light of day, he has to accept some responsibility for that coming together. As if he would never try a move like that? Come on. And the penalty was entirely appropriate for a first lap racing incident. Who knew Lewis would drive so brilliantly and turn it into a win? I suspect not even Lewis, which was why he was so happy 😀

Jim Dollares

Not entirely correct, Horner's call to the race director was broadcast during the race?

imagwai

Sorry, I don't really get it. OK, nobody likes celebrations that are too over the top, but Lewis won the race. His 8th British GP in front of a home crowd. He somehow shouldn't be enjoying that? How is celebrating "disrespectful"? Max is just trying to paint Lewis as the bad guy here. There's no way Lewis would have celebrated if he'd thought Max was at all in a bad way.

Albert-AMG

Interesting article by Jolyon Palmer:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...KL36vLB4jfB2rnrV9KfQkmFcDn7hFtukCydxE1zgLtryo

Mspeedster

I don't recall it being broadcast live. In any case, when the commentators talked about it, it had no weight on my perspective one way or the other.

Yago

Both Horner and Wolff calls were broadcast before tge steward’s decision.