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Agree the Pelagos wins out in that video, the blue doesn't really grab (I assume they look better in real life), but they really had me at the titanium bracelet with the micro adjust. Sitting here with the bb58 on my wrist, possibly the finest watch ever made (FYI @Aquagraph ), I'm warming to the Pelagos. It looks like it would be a great everyday tool watch.

Did you not see those Ulysse Nardins I posted earlier? 😲
 
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I don't know why I hate it so much, other than it represents the 'dumbing down' of a previously excellent watch. I think it's a shame. I do think that if it was the other way round it would have been better. So if the Pelagos had been 39mm initially and they produced the 42mm (with all the bells and whistles) as a sort of 'SuperPelagos' type thing, then it would have been more acceptable. At least that way round they would have been making something intrinsically 'better' than the standard model, this way round it feels like a 'budget' version, except it's not even that much cheaper.
TAG sort of did the same thing with 40mm AR didn't they? Released after the AR 43mm, but with lower specs (i.e. 200m vs. 300m depth rating, no ceramic bezel etc.), different looking as well, and not really that much cheaper.
 
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This is rather nice (with a substantially slimmed down case height):
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I'm interstate at the moment so just went into an AD. Aa usual they said its just a display piece and are waiting on supply.
Which I think is Bullshit.
I told the Woman I would buy it now and NO was the response.
Apparently they've been very popular??
I said yeah in 1 say they have been released.
Typically AD crap.
Just waiting on my AD in Melbourne to contact me.

It's super lightweight compared to the Pro.
The size is great for my liking and the bracelet is great both in design and weight. Clasp feels a bit "cheap" but rhats just because it's thin titanium.
 
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I'm interstate at the moment so just went into an AD. Aa usual they said its just a display piece and are waiting on supply.
Which I think is Bullshit.
I told the Woman I would buy it now and NO was the response.
Apparently they've been very popular??
I said yeah in 1 say they have been released.
Typically AD crap.
Just waiting on my AD in Melbourne to contact me.

It's super lightweight compared to the Pro.
The size is great for my liking and the bracelet is great both in design and weight. Clasp feels a bit "cheap" but rhats just because it's thin titanium.
What did you think of the sunray dial and bezel? That's the part I can't tell whether I like or not in pics. Also, what were your thoughts in comparison to your sub?
 
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I really couldn't tell it was Sunray or sunburst.
Maybe the Lights in the shop. At some angles it's visible but slightly.

To the Rolex sub I don't see them on the same level. My sub is the Date.
41mm vs 39mm. The sub feels much more substantial on the wrist. Pelagos feels nice and Light. Definitely not in the same league.
 
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This discussion about the reduced 200M depth rating of the Pelagos 39 made me curious about scuba diving depth. I'm no Jacques Cousteau, snorkel diving is all I've ever done, so even 50M is plenty for my typical water sport needs. Still, I wondered about actual divers and what it must be like; this video shows how deep a 200M dive is.
In addition, I found that the average scuba dive is typically between 15-25M in depth and a recreational diver shouldn't go deeper than 40M without additional certification. Also, any deeper than 200M and light begins to rapidly disappear into darkness. So only hardcore deep sea divers would need 500M for their watch. I suppose the image of owning a watch capable of such depth is very cool, but the practical reality is most of us will never get anywhere close to even 200M.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/light_travel.html
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This is rather nice (with a substantially slimmed down case height):
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That shiny bronze ring looks so good the first day when it looks like gold
 
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This discussion about the reduced 200M depth rating of the Pelagos 39 made me curious about scuba diving depth. I'm no Jacques Cousteau, snorkel diving is all I've ever done, so even 50M is plenty for my typical water sport needs. Still, I wondered about actual divers and what it must be like; this video shows how deep a 200M dive is.
In addition, I found that the average scuba dive is typically between 15-25M in depth and a recreational diver shouldn't go deeper than 40M without additional certification. Also, any deeper than 200M and light begins to rapidly disappear into darkness. So only hardcore deep sea divers would need 500M for their watch. I suppose the image of owning a watch capable of such depth is very cool, but the practical reality is most of us will never get anywhere close to even 200M.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/light_travel.html
lightinocean2.jpg

Static pressure and pressure under movement are very different. A 200m watch is fine at 200m, provided the water is perfectly still and you don't move your arm, which is why you need a watch rated much higher than the depth you are diving too.

For example, hitting the water hard or at speed, which is typical when windsurfing, kitesurfing or high diving will easily get water into a 50m watch, despite only being a meter or two down.

Typically 50m is regarded as good for washing your hands, showering, sitting in the hot tub, swimming. 100m for watersports, 200m or higher for diving.

Its irrelevant anyway, I asked a buddy who dives if he's ever seen anyone wearing a dive watch diving. The short version is no, and you could buy a handful of decent dive computers for £3.5k.
 
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TAG sort of did the same thing with 40mm AR didn't they? Released after the AR 43mm, but with lower specs (i.e. 200m vs. 300m depth rating, no ceramic bezel etc.), different looking as well, and not really that much cheaper.
Exactly. Ultimately it will all be forgotten and the new Pelagos-lite will just become part of the range. I guess Pelagos didn't actually mean that much in the first place so it won't matter. Well actually I guess 'Pelagos' just stands for a certain 'aesthetic' rather than being their 'Super Ocean' or whatever. I just think it's a shame they didn't make a smaller 'proper' Pelagos instead of what they actually got, which was just another 200m dive watch that 'looks like' the actual Pelagos.
 
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Static pressure and pressure under movement are very different. A 200m watch is fine at 200m, provided the water is perfectly still and you don't move your arm, which is why you need a watch rated much higher than the depth you are diving too.

For example, hitting the water hard or at speed, which is typical when windsurfing, kitesurfing or high diving will easily get water into a 50m watch, despite only being a meter or two down.

Typically 50m is regarded as good for washing your hands, showering, sitting in the hot tub, swimming. 100m for watersports, 200m or higher for diving.

Its irrelevant anyway, I asked a buddy who dives if he's ever seen anyone wearing a dive watch diving. The short version is no, and you could buy a handful of decent dive computers for £3.5k.

Yes of course it's all nonsense, and very misleading to non-watch people who think their 30M watch is okay for swimming - I mean why wouldn't you think that. My watch is 30M I'm only swimming in 2M of water, why is it wet inside?
 
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Exactly. Ultimately it will all be forgotten and the new Pelagos-lite will just become part of the range. I guess Pelagos didn't actually mean that much in the first place so it won't matter. Well actually I guess 'Pelagos' just stands for a certain 'aesthetic' rather than being their 'Super Ocean' or whatever. I just think it's a shame they didn't make a smaller 'proper' Pelagos instead of what they actually got, which was just another 200m dive watch that 'looks like' the actual Pelagos.

Look at this from a different perspective - three hand dive watches are useless for diving, water resistance past 200m and helium release valves are pointless, so Tudor have created possibly the best automatic lifestyle tool watch on the market.
 
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Look at this from a different perspective - three hand dive watches are useless for diving, water resistance past 200m and helium release valves are pointless, so Tudor have created possibly the best automatic lifestyle tool watch on the market.

I thought they already had that though? Or is the Black Bay 58 not a 'lifestyle' tool watch? Whatever the hell that means...
 
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a 'lifestyle' tool watch? Whatever the hell that means...

A watch you can wear travelling, mowing the lawn, to the gym, to the pub, to a board meeting, swimming, surfing, cycling, to a wedding, snowboarding, in the office, on a building site, at a race meeting, without worrying about scratches, damaging the finish or looking like you've over/under dressed for the occasion. In short, the watch that 99% of watch buyers buy and wear everyday for a decade.

Actually a lot like the steel aquaracer I'm wearing today.
 
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Is that just a clever way of saying it looks like a Submariner?