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·Red Bull Is Probably Going To Fire Liam Lawson After Just Two Races: Report
https://www.jalopnik.com/1817801/red-bull-likely-to-fire-liam-lawson/
If this comes to pass, who will replace him?
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorProbably Tsunoda
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YY77
·Probably Tsunoda
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorThat was fast. Yuki and Japanese fans can now rejoice.
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RockBurner
·Nothing on the official F1 news site yet....
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·If Lawson and Tsunoda swap seats, and Lawson starts beating Yuki, and Yuki has difficulty with the Red Bull: then it calls into question Red Bull's overall strategy of building a car around the driving style of one driver, who, while outstanding in his field, is, nonetheless an outlier to the general trend of how F1 drivers drive.
It's a bit like Mazda going down the rotary engine route for their endurance racers. Yes, they did well, but it wasn't sustainable and eventually was a dead end.
Verstappen may well win the Driver's Championships, bit Red Bull aren't going to win anymore Constructor laurels if they can't find another driver who drives in the same way as Max.
Next year's new regs will hopefully balance this somewhat, but Red Bull are hopefully (for their sake), questioning the wisdom of putting all their eggs in one basket....
It's a bit like Mazda going down the rotary engine route for their endurance racers. Yes, they did well, but it wasn't sustainable and eventually was a dead end.
Verstappen may well win the Driver's Championships, bit Red Bull aren't going to win anymore Constructor laurels if they can't find another driver who drives in the same way as Max.
Next year's new regs will hopefully balance this somewhat, but Red Bull are hopefully (for their sake), questioning the wisdom of putting all their eggs in one basket....
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Aquagraph
·Maybe they should give Perez a call? Kind makes you wonder doesn't it?
I saw an interview with Albon on Instagram a day or so ago, he was saying that Max likes the car so 'sharp' that it's almost undriveable. And as the season goes along he wants it 'sharper' and 'sharper' and obviously RB are only interested in what Max wants because he's delivering and you're not. So it just compounds the problem. Best scenario for Lawson is a swap with Yuki, Lawson gets a driveable car and suddenly looks less of a donkey, while Yuki proves that the car is the problem not the drivers.
I saw an interview with Albon on Instagram a day or so ago, he was saying that Max likes the car so 'sharp' that it's almost undriveable. And as the season goes along he wants it 'sharper' and 'sharper' and obviously RB are only interested in what Max wants because he's delivering and you're not. So it just compounds the problem. Best scenario for Lawson is a swap with Yuki, Lawson gets a driveable car and suddenly looks less of a donkey, while Yuki proves that the car is the problem not the drivers.
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Jeff Stein
·If Lawson and Tsunoda swap seats, and Lawson starts beating Yuki, and Yuki has difficulty with the Red Bull: then it calls into question Red Bull's overall strategy of building a car around the driving style of one driver, who, while outstanding in his field, is, nonetheless an outlier to the general trend of how F1 drivers drive.
It's a bit like Mazda going down the rotary engine route for their endurance racers. Yes, they did well, but it wasn't sustainable and eventually was a dead end.
Verstappen may well win the Driver's Championships, bit Red Bull aren't going to win anymore Constructor laurels if they can't find another driver who drives in the same way as Max.
Next year's new regs will hopefully balance this somewhat, but Red Bull are hopefully (for their sake), questioning the wisdom of putting all their eggs in one basket....
This discussion is fascinating!! How would you describe the "building the car for Max" approach? What does it mean that Max likes a car "sharp". For a novice (now aged 69), how would you describe his driving style?
Love this chat!!
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·Albon said driving the Red Bull is like playing a gaming console with the sensitivity turned on full. I haven't played a game console for a long time but I get the idea. I can understand why that would be a nightmare to drive, if every tiny input to the wheel resulted in a large movement on track. I can see why that what make the car fast, but the level of concentration required to handle it must be horrendous.
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Jeff Stein
·Albon said driving the Red Bull is like playing a gaming console with the sensitivity turned on full. I haven't played a game console for a long time but I get the idea. I can understand why that would be a nightmare to drive, if every tiny input to the wheel resulted in a large movement on track. I can see why that what make the car fast, but the level of concentration required to handle it must be horrendous.
Great chat here . . . I'm looking forward to getting dialed into the 2025 season!!
Thanks,
Jeff
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RockBurner
·I followed F1 very closely in the 1980s and 90s, lost interest (and didn't have much time) in the first two decades of the current century, and have been getting into it again over the past couple of years. Yes, this can happen to a guy born in 1955.
This discussion is fascinating!! How would you describe the "building the car for Max" approach? What does it mean that Max likes a car "sharp". For a novice (now aged 69), how would you describe his driving style?
Love this chat!!
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Mspeedster
·Interesting commentary on the switch. RB having an executive meeting right after China. Then Honda paying RB to force the change in time for the Japanese GP. Yet, nothing officially announced as of now.
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·Funnily enough, I'm similar. I watched F1 up to Hill's career, then life got in the way, and I've only become interested again in the last few years.
Looks like they have solved that problem in recent years.
Jeff
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·Funnily enough, I'm similar. I watched F1 up to Hill's career, then life got in the way, and I've only become interested again in the last few years.
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·To be honest once the cars got overly technical and aero dependent I was less and less interested, slipstreaming to pass at 150+ made racing, instead they have to tinker with tyre changes and DRS to make it interesting? I’d rather travel to my local circuit and watch club racing.
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·What odds that Lawson finishes ahead of Yuki in Japan?
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·Be careful what you wish for. RB's #2 seat can end careers.
Worst case, he struggles like Liam and Checo, and people will continue to say the car's too extreme and suited towards Max. Best case, he surprises everyone and is close to Max. All Yuki really needs to do is score some points and it'll be an improvement as far as RB is concerned.
