2023 TAG Heuer Solargraph Titanium (WBP1180.BF0000)

Chrisred71

I'm not trying to make a statement or convincing anyone or anything. Actually, I believe that Tag Heuer has some pretty decent value for money offerings amongst their current lineup.

I really fell for the Solargraph, love at first sight, no cap.

Jim Dollares

What? In what way is it ignorance? I told you earlier that people buy a TAG Heuer for the brand and design. And I think made it clear I am fully aware of the product being crap, but my heart desires it and I feel I want it. My heart longs for that sweet brand and the sexy design. And how it feels in my hand. How I feel when I touch it. How I feel when I gently run my finger over the crystal. Me feeling aroused turning the bezel. All of this, but I am not ignorant to the fact that the product is dawg shit.

Aquagraph

Sorry, this is the third time in the last two days that I've come across the word 'cap'. I'm very old and don't know what it means, could you explain it please. Is it just cap without the r in it? And if so, why is that necessary? Is it like when people abbreviate 'win' by saying 'double-yee', thus making it three times longer?

Chrisred71

No cap is a slang for "I mean it". It imply you're truly telling what you think.

Jim Dollares

What? In what way is it ignorance? I told you earlier that people buy a TAG Heuer for the brand and design. And I think made it clear I am fully aware of the product being crap, but my heart desires it and I feel I want it. My heart longs for that sweet brand and the sexy design. And how it feels in my hand. How I feel when I touch it. How I feel when I gently run my finger over the crystal. Me feeling aroused turning the bezel. All of this, but I am not ignorant to the fact that the product is dawg shit.

Chrisred71

Not that it was brand new tech, but not that it was off-the-shelves Eco drive either. That what i thought you guys believed about the Solargraph.

Chrisred71

Maybe going a little off topic here, but do you guys know that caused the demise of the Calibre11 website ?? I loved, and I spent countless hours on it. I now find myself in the wayback machine browsing it. It truly was a delight of Tag Heuer knowledge.

Mspeedster

David and TAG Heuer weren't aligned on the future direction of Calibre11.com. TAG obtained the rights to DC's work and DC decided to close his website. More details here: https://tagheuerforums.com/threads/end-of-an-era.141416/

bpsmith

“Which would suggest not only TH-50 is a bespoke development but Tag just invented the very Solar quartz technology themselves.”

Quote from your above post. Certainly suggests that your opinion was that we thought TAG invented the tech. Not sure where you got that from tbh.

Chrisred71

Tag obtained the rights of the website ???
How ?? It wasn't affiliated with Tag in any way
Imma read that

Chrisred71

Tag obtained the rights of the website ???
How ?? It wasn't affiliated with Tag in any way
Imma read that

Chrisred71

The price, the price suggest that Tag did something deep with that TH-50 movement
I never implied that it was what you guys believed, but what Tag would want us to think.

Aquagraph

Dawg shit is probably a bit strong, but I concur that we know we are not really buying something that is genuinely value for money - because we like the look of the watches. It's not like there is another brand who make an 'Aquaracer' with a better movement we can buy. Really it's no different than buying a truly crap Gucci watch with a £1 quartz movement in it for £1000. We just don't like to think of it like that...

Mspeedster

Yes, sorry I should've spelled it out. Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt = FUD. It's not that I feel bad or am that fearful. I'm someone who should know better, as my career has taken me into the actual statistics of reliability and quality analysis. Yet I'm only human and all this negative rhetoric does have an effect even on me. So if it affects someone with my background, it surely isn't doing TAG any favors and perpetuates FUD throughout the forum at large.

EDIT: I guess what I'm trying to say is that while your intentions may have been good and you felt like you were doing a public service, you may have in fact done the opposite. Because regardless of the lack of science, it becomes a kind of propaganda against the Cal 5. I recall that it was enough to scare Hubert into cancelling his 844 tribute order.

dtf

Maybe. Remember while the sample size is not representative, it is a sample of 'people who like TH watches and happen to own a calibre 5' not 'people who joined an Internet forum to complain their $2500 watch just broke', so you would expect it to be slanted towards 'look, calibre 5s never break'.

Mspeedster

Actually, I feel it tainted the sample pool. Jim already knew the members who were vocal about Cal 5 problems and was sure to include them in his study.

Mspeedster

A completely random sampling from a much larger pool of anonymous TAG Heuer Cal 5 watch owners would have given a less biased result.