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2020 TAG Heuer Connected (E3) - Discussions Thread
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Albert-AMG
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorFirstly with all faults being posted on here like the battery and the bezel falling off its probably not a bad idea to stop associating it with a direct swiss craftsmanship.
I have no problem at all with bezel or batteries in my two smartwatch CM45 modules, so I’m really happy with the work they did at La Chaux-de-Fonds 😉
From 50.000 Gen2 Modular sold watches, do you know their ratio of problems? Maybe it’s not so serious as you explain here... Gen3 is just released, so how can you be sure that its ratio of problems will be better, after making it in China?
Secondly, I got enough of Biver. He had his days. He is old, his health is not great and he made mistakes. What you are experiencing today with your modular limbo - is his misjudgement of the market initially. It was obvious that the modular was not going to be widely accepted. It was a marketing gamble
Firstly, all my respect for Mr. Biver.
Gen1 (not modular) sold 15.000 watches, and Gen2 Modular sold 50.000 watches, so it seems that modular concept was well accepted and helped Gen2 to sell more than three times the Gen1 watches. Also Modular concept made many people -not only me!- spend much more money than expected in TAG Heuer and the TH Connected line because of the mechanical modules and all the available modular accessories... And you must buy original Modular TH accessories (not cheap), because there are no fakes or other brands making compatible straps/lugs/modules out of TH
But this time it did not work, but people like you spent a lot on this damaging the brand even further.
😲 I didn’t know that spending a lot in TAG Heuer was a way to damage the brand! 🤦 I’m sorry, I will not do it again then! 😟
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kappa_md
·I’m thinking if i should jumped now into this 3rd GenTH SmartWatch. Still lot to consider. Reasons why i hesitated in buying a smartwatch from TH before. Luxury items are all about perception. We give value & importance to things based on our “perceived” quality of material & craftmanship and image. Having a Luxury SmartWatch “Made In China” defeats this purpose. It might be super quality but are you paying for the premium more because of the quality or because of the perceived “luxury”
i understood why Apple labels their products, “Designed by Apple in California” rather than just putting “China” It’s also a marketing tool to move away from that “perception”
i understood why Apple labels their products, “Designed by Apple in California” rather than just putting “China” It’s also a marketing tool to move away from that “perception”
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Ninja1400
·it seems that modular concept was well accepted and helped Gen2 to sell more than three times the Gen1 watches.
That’s why now the modular concept is over.
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Albert-AMG
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorI am negociating with someone to buy a new CM45 produced in 2020. Together with pair of ceramic lugs ceramic clasp and a brown leather band. What should be a good buy price? @Albert-AMG your opinion counts.
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kappa_md
·Is the Gen3 Connected a real value in improvement over Gen1s and 2s? Should we wait for the snapdragon update before getting this?
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EmJay
·I have no problem at all with bezel or batteries in my two smartwatch CM45 modules, so I’m really happy with the work they did at La Chaux-de-Fonds 😉
From 50.000 Gen2 Modular sold watches, do you know their ratio of problems? Maybe it’s not so serious as you explain here... Gen3 is just released, so how can you be sure that its ratio of problems will be better, after making it in China?
I did not even know that it was produced in La Chaux-de-Fonds. I don't care.
Firstly, all my respect for Mr. Biver.
He is rich and he was successful. The business is brutal, he has got his gold plated pension now. Time to go.
Gen1 (not modular) sold 15.000 watches, and Gen2 Modular sold 50.000 watches, so it seems that modular concept was well accepted and helped Gen2 to sell more than three times the Gen1 watches.
Its got nothing to do with a modular concept, or very little. TAG Heuer + Swiss Watch + Smart Watch + Marketing.
Also Modular concept made many people -not only me!- spend much more money than expected in TAG Heuer and the TH Connected line because of the mechanical modules and all the available modular accessories...
How many people? Let me guess - tens? Do they have even a hundred people like you?
😲 I didn’t know that spending a lot in TAG Heuer was a way to damage the brand! 🤦 I’m sorry, I will not do it again then! 😟
No. You haven't even tried Gen 3 but you dont like it already because you spent so much on the modules that are no longer there. You are not alone for sure. Its called early adopters. Pissing the enthusiasts off is not a good idea.
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TAG GUY
·There are many quality products made in China and you don’t even realize it.
For me this is not a valid argument.
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Jim Dollares
·But this time it did not work, but people like you spent a lot on this damaging the brand even further.
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TAG GUY
·The modular concept was a good idea, but they killed it with those ridiculous prices for the straps and lugs.
That’s why now the modular concept is over.
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Jim Dollares
·About the whole China vs Swiss discussion. Of course crap from China can be of great quality but there is a huge difference in price comparing the two. When Tag decreases production costs by moving to China and at the same time uses cheaper materials while increasing the price of the product of course that will make people upset and question the value of the new product.
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TAG GUY
·Do you really think TAG is so stupid that they’re killing their brand?
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Ninja1400
·About the whole China vs Swiss discussion. Of course crap from China can be of great quality but there is a huge difference in price comparing the two. When Tag decreases production costs by moving to China and at the same time uses cheaper materials while increasing the price of the product of course that will make people upset and question the value of the new product.
But if Apple set a price of $300 you’d think it’s crap.
Where do you land?
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Feanor
·Ok, that was quite the surprise; I was passing by a TAG Heuer retailer today and unexpectedly they had the new Connected at the shop window. I really wasn't expecting to find it in my country. The shop was closed due to coronavirus, but a had a good look; I'd say; much nicer in reality, sorry guys, but you are either somehow poor photographers, or the watch is not particularly photogenic. :-D
Of course it balances between the style of the edgy, robust Carrera Heuer (or the previous Connected) and the more classical non-Heuer Carreras (like the Calibre 16 models) but it does look expensive and it does look definitely like a real TAG Heuer. It looks nothing like a Samsung Galaxy Watch, as I was afraid. One thing that definitely helps the design are the ultra-modern pushers on the side.
Still for me not the best direction (I still think that the smartwatch should be the one TAG to be more "matte" and more edgy-modern), but nevertheless I could imagine that it would look really amazing on my wrist.
Of course it balances between the style of the edgy, robust Carrera Heuer (or the previous Connected) and the more classical non-Heuer Carreras (like the Calibre 16 models) but it does look expensive and it does look definitely like a real TAG Heuer. It looks nothing like a Samsung Galaxy Watch, as I was afraid. One thing that definitely helps the design are the ultra-modern pushers on the side.
Still for me not the best direction (I still think that the smartwatch should be the one TAG to be more "matte" and more edgy-modern), but nevertheless I could imagine that it would look really amazing on my wrist.
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TAG GUY
·According to this argument an iPhone should cost $300 (like a Xiaomi).
But if Apple set a price of $300 you’d think it’s crap.
Where do you land?
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Jim Dollares
·According to this argument an iPhone should cost $300 (like a Xiaomi).
But if Apple set a price of $300 you’d think it’s crap.
Where do you land?
If Apple were making all their products in America, selling them as premium because they are American made. Then suddenly move the production to China while increasing the price, THEN a comparison with apple would be relevant.
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EmJay
·T TAG GUYYour totally missing the point. You keep making tech references. We are talking about watch making , horology. A better example would be if Ferragamo began making their shoes in China, they would ruin their image overnight. Only reason TAG is getting away with it is because this is partly a tech product, essentially a throwaway item in 3 or 4 years. No one would spend hard earned money on a heirloom watch made in China. But on the bright side, you are 100 percent TAG's target market for this watch!
Its got nothing to do with horology as the term normally refers to the mechanical devices. Intel, batteries and all different bits of Gen 1 and 2 were made in China.
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EmJay
·No that is not what I am saying.
If Apple were making all their products in America, selling them as premium because they are American made. Then suddenly move the production to China while increasing the price, THEN a comparison with apple would be relevant.
It used to be made in USA. But then they moved the production increasing the price, exactly what happened.
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