2020 TAG Heuer Connected (E3) - Discussions Thread

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- Snapdragon 3100 is for me a liability for the future and I still haven't seen the RAM. From personal experience with a Fossil Sport, 3100+512MB RAM= disastrous performance.
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Connected 3 has a 1GB RAM my friend.

Thanks.
 
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....and after today launch, I have discovered another step backwards: it’s not SWISS MADE like Gen2... it’s CHINA! 😲


I don't get it. They even use concept drawings in the promotion materials showing the CHINA lettering. I can't believe that the whole product is made in China. 👎😵‍💫

Addendum: It's true. I just read it in a swiss newspaper. Assembled in China. The assembly site in La Chaux-de-Fonds will be used otherwise. Partly because Intel doesn't cover the smartwatch Sector anymore! 🙁
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Connected 3 has a 1GB RAM my friend.

Thanks.
I didn't find any technical document that supports this. Of course I also think it must have 1GB but I want to make sure.
It's already established that there is also no LTE connection (still a rarity, Fossil also doesn't have any LTE enabled models) but what about speaker? This is nowadays commonplace.
 
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Actually quite like the look of this - nice and slim, looks like it'd be a much better companion for the kinds of things one would wear a smartwatch for. I am not a smartwatch person nor do I expect I ever will be, but if I were this would certainly be my choice. Bravo to the design team!
 
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Actually quite like the look of this - nice and slim, looks like it'd be a much better companion for the kinds of things one would wear a smartwatch for. I am not a smartwatch person nor do I expect I ever will be, but if I were this would certainly be my choice. Bravo to the design team!
So for me is 100% a biiig NO. I hoped the design is with edges.. futuristic... and for me is a major step back. It looks to classic . There are plenty watches at TH that look classic and i do not mind while also cutting edge designs are also available but in the Smartwatch category it should be a 2020 design .. it looks same as samsung or Huawei at a first quick look.. nothing to catch my eye. I do not give a fk about LTE or HR sensor.. good to have but not essential for a watch.. specially a TH """SWISS""". Would not be very surprised if we will find out that the producer of this "watch" is something like.. Xiaomi ... i am dissapointed. Few days ago i tought about 3rd gen not be modular and i decided if it will look at least as cool as CM45 i will upgrade. Now.. i cross my fingers and hope that my CM45 will last as long as possible i even have in mind to contact Tag for a new module in exchenge plus difference ..just to have the battery younger. Cant explain in words my dissapointment... and I know I am nothing for TH.. a small Ant. But again... fff.....kkkk.
 
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I didn't find any technical document that supports this. Of course I also think it must have 1GB but I want to make sure.
It's already established that there is also no LTE connection (still a rarity, Fossil also doesn't have any LTE enabled models) but what about speaker? This is nowadays commonplace.

I agree that the detailed specifications are not presented on the website. I believe we should see them in the owner's manual. No LTE, No speaker - Agreed :-(
 
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I agree that the detailed specifications are not presented on the website. I believe we should see them in the owner's manual. No LTE, No speaker - Agreed :-(
..for me.. case closed. Just wanted a watch...not a Nintendo. Still coursing...
 
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I hope TAG will open eyes and will relese in 2021 gen4 Modular and compatible with Gen2 straps and Lugs. In this way all the people that bought mechanical modules for the Gen2 will be able tobuse their expensive accesories with a actual SmartW. But... what i really think is that Tag will abandon the SW line. End of story
 
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Does anyone know if there is a trade in option for the Gen2 module? I have a Connected 41 and a trade-in of the module would certainly push me over to get the new one (plus keep the Calibre 5 module on the modular straps I have).
 
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I've never been a fan of these at all and quite frankly never saw the point of owning one, but times are changing so understand why Tag are developing them. Like the look of this after watching the video above.. Actually looks rather good! 😵‍💫

That said I won't be buying one as I'm a mechanical design engineer so have a huge appreciation for the mechanical models 😁
 
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Is the bracelet quick release like the straps? If so, I would like to see the QR feature come to the H-bracelet for the Carrera.
 
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All of the bands are sold out on the web site. Good opening day, it seems. Hopefully more options are coming down the road (would love to see brown leather option).
 
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TAG Heuer's Frédéric Arnault: ‘There’s demand for a luxury smartwatch like the Connected'
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/watches/article/frederic-arnault-tag-heuer-connected

GQ: This is the third iteration of the TAG Heuer Connected watch. What has the original launch taught you?

FA: The first is that there is demand for a luxury smartwatch and there is a strong potential. We saw that with our first and second generations and it really motivated us to invest in this category. Another was that our price positioning was not an issue to really finding a market. Some customers really want to differentiate from the smartwatch that everyone has on their wrist; they want something special, something different, and because you are touching the wrist with something so intimate, it needs to be special.

And then on the tech side we learned that it’s very different from developing mechanical watches. It really requires a dedicated team, a specific skill set, different reasonings, different partners – so we have developed our own team based in Paris to take over the development and the product management. We have software developments, we have hardware engineers, programme managers and having internal technological capabilities is very helpful for driving the product forward. In the two first generations our main differentiation was the design and now we decided to go one step further in refinement but also invest in software.


The new watch is clearly a refinement on its predecessors. Can you enlarge on the thinking behind the changes?

We really spent a lot of time on the design and engineering, the finishing, the choice of materials, ceramic bezel, the polished case – that’s really important, but then you have the watch faces. Users are looking for different features and they want to personalise their watch as much as possible, so there are lots of customisation options. And not only copies of, or inspirations from, mechanical dials – we decided to go much further this time.

We had to reinterpret the brand in the digital world so the Orbital and Carbon watch faces take some inspiration from watchmaking but the experience on the watch is not only based on the watch, so we’ve developed our own TAG Heuer ecosystem around sports.

We believe most of the uses are around health and fitness and we believe we have a strong point of difference in that market. As you know, our brand is avant-garde and our strong roots within sports are really legitimate. So we are launching one of the most legitimate, if not the most legitimate, products in watchmaking and we are reinforcing this with the best user experiences in golf, running, cycling, fitness, walking but also warm-up and we will really refine these features and listen to what our customers ask for.

The brand has a strong heritage around motorsport. Do you envisage this being a key pillar or possible attribute for further developments?

Around motorsports, we are very often asked this question because it’s a strong sport for the brand historically. But with the Connected watch we really wanted to focus on the features that made most sense and to date we haven’t identified motorsports as a priority. It wouldn’t be used as much as the other sports and the demand on the market wouldn’t be as strong as for the sports that we are focusing on. But there is a road map and it is constantly evolving so this is just the beginning. We already have more sports that we will launch later this year, with more to come.

It’s interesting to note that whereas a mechanical watch leaves the factory effectively ‘complete’, from a technological point of view, the Connected watch remains a work-in-progress, reliant on regular updates to its functions and services. Maintaining that functionality becomes a new business for TAG Heuer.

Absolutely, and while we are able to track [certain aspects] of a mechanical watch’s user experience, here we will track and make sure that the watch is actually used. And that’s not something we can do with mechanical watches. And if we notice that there is a decrease in the usage we will be able to react really fast and make sure we meet expectations in terms of usability.


So the relationship with your customer changes…

Completely. And the relationship between the product and the customers is completely different. This product is a companion that follows you in your day-to-day activities and you’ll learn to live with it.

Whereas a mechanical watch is fundamentally an ‘accessory for life’, there is inevitably an element of inbuilt obsolescence with a Connected watch. How important is the aspect of sustainability?

Sustainability is very important to us as a brand and also on the Connected watch. The way we approach it is the product will be usable for several years and we will continue to invest in updates. Today we have users still wearing the first watch we launched in 2015 and this is very important to us. And then we will build a recycling programme because this is a technological product so it doesn’t have the same essence as a mechanical watch – it won’t last for decades. It will last for several years, and much longer than people would have in mind for a technological product, but eventually it won’t be maintained like a mechanical watch. But we will offer a recycling programme to the customer.

In 2015, the first iteration of the Connected watch came with the promise of a replacement mechanical model at the end of its life. It sounds as if with the new model, the requirement to model a solution by which a TAG Heuer is never obsolete has shifted somewhat.

We decided to separate the promise to the customer with the smartwatch on one side and the mechanical watch on the other. Both are really complementary and we have customers who enjoy having both. We don’t have to have the promise in the same product.


Do you think the Connected watch appeals to an existing TAG Heuer customer or a new one?

We have a bit of both. A lot of TAG Heuer lovers and collectors are interested in our proposition and it also allows us to bring some customers to the brand, clients who perhaps haven’t had a TAG Heuer or even a watch before, who eventually might be interested in purchasing a mechanical watch. In terms of numbers, a significant number of customers for the Connected watch say they are interested in purchasing a mechanical watch later. So it’s a way of bringing customers into the brand but also the world of watchmaking.
 
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Is this a unisex model? It’s quite large at 45mm and you did a 41mm in the second edition…

We really believe this will appeal to both markets. And also, with the features around sports, it’s important to have a big screen for readability. So we believe this will appeal to both markets. We have a road map but nothing.

The luxury smartwatch is currently something of an outlier in the sector and so, is the USP the execution of the watch itself – ie ‘only a Swiss watchmaker can do this’ – or will the battle be played out in the technology inside the watch and will this will trump design and brand equity?

We believe the main point of difference is the execution on the finishing: the look and feel of the watch. But it’s very important that it is reliable and that it works and is effective – so there is a lot of work you need to execute properly. And we have developed some key features that set us apart on the sports side from the rest of the watches. There are very few that decide to set up their own ecosystem and not rely only on the operating system available. So we rely on our partners’ road map and we also have our own and we really believe that our customers will want to stay within that ecosystem.


Two other watch brands within the group have developed their own smartwatches – Hublot and Louis Vuitton – is it fair to say you are all collaborating in the development of these products?

The group is very decentralised and that’s really the culture of the group; each brand has its own DNA and creativity has to stay “in the brand” – this is very important. We do collaborate, we meet with the teams, we share best practices, we have some common negotiations with some partners, however the creativity stays within each brand – we don't force any collaboration. It happens naturally.
 
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So for me is 100% a biiig NO. I hoped the design is with edges.. futuristic... and for me is a major step back. It looks to classic . There are plenty watches at TH that look classic and i do not mind while also cutting edge designs are also available but in the Smartwatch category it should be a 2020 design .. it looks same as samsung or Huawei at a first quick look.. nothing to catch my eye. I do not give a fk about LTE or HR sensor.. good to have but not essential for a watch.. specially a TH """SWISS""". Would not be very surprised if we will find out that the producer of this "watch" is something like.. Xiaomi ... i am dissapointed. Few days ago i tought about 3rd gen not be modular and i decided if it will look at least as cool as CM45 i will upgrade. Now.. i cross my fingers and hope that my CM45 will last as long as possible i even have in mind to contact Tag for a new module in exchenge plus difference ..just to have the battery younger. Cant explain in words my dissapointment... and I know I am nothing for TH.. a small Ant. But again... fff.....kkkk.


Couldn't agree more. It's most likely like the new Motorola 360 smartwatch, made by some Chinese company "ebuynow" or some s***. At least Motorola is transparent about it though.