2020 TAG Heuer Connected (E3) - Discussions Thread

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Better screen which is not the last thing in the list I would say. In the end of the day the flashy side of the watch is always on display with a face you like.
Always On Display setting was already available for Gen2 Modular.
What is the difference Gen3 vs Gen2 about AOD? This is my Gen2 with AOD on, and all pictures with the screen in dimmed mode

 
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To the lucky ones that have already received their new Connected:
Can you customize the functions assigned to the side buttons, as it is the case on any other Wear OS watch, or has TAG Heuer locked down their functions to the new Sport app?
 
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Always On Display setting was already available for Gen2 Modular.
What is the difference Gen3 vs Gen2 about AOD? This is my Gen2 with AOD on, and all pictures with the screen in dimmed mode

To me Autavia in the shape of Gen 2 looks odd, not to mention Monaco. So the new case is a lot more appropriate for Carrera, F1, Aquaracer and heritage faces, although it is a matter of taste off course.

And it is 1.4-inch screen with the resolution of 454 x 454 pixels now compared to 1.39-inches 45 with a 400 x 400 pixel resolution. Its simply better screen.
 
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To the lucky ones that have already received their new Connected:
Can you customize the functions assigned to the side buttons, as it is the case on any other Wear OS watch, or has TAG Heuer locked down their functions to the new Sport app?
 
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To me Autavia in the shape of Gen 2 looks odd, not to mention Monaco. So the new case is a lot more appropriate for Carrera, F1, Aquaracer and heritage faces, although it is a matter of taste off course.

And it is 1.4-inch screen with the resolution of 454 x 454 pixels now compared to 1.39-inches 45 with a 400 x 400 pixel resolution. Its simply better screen.


The screen has the same 1.39 inches from Gen2 M45, so the advantage is just the better resolution (326ppi Gen3 vs 287ppi Gen2 M45). BTW, Gen2 M41 is also 326ppi like Gen3, in a -obviously smaller- 390x390 screen.

But both M45 and M41 have AMOLED screen, which is supposedly better (and more expensive) than the just OLED Gen3 screen, so the screen advantage is then not so relevant

So from your answer I understand there’s no Always On Display difference between Gen3 and Gen2, except for a better resolution vs M45 (not vs M41)

About the Autavia and Monaco watchfaces on the Connected... yes, you are right, the TH Connected (mostly Gen1 and Gen2, with direct Carrera 45mm design) is in fact a Carrera Connected, so being purists, we only should wear Carrera watchfaces... but on the other hand, as only Carrera Connected exists and there are no Monaco Connected, Autavia Connected... I think the all three Gen of THC are legitimated to wear any TH/Heuer face, just for fun 😀

But here some pictures with Carrera watchfaces (AOD on, dimmed mode) for our pace of mind 😉

 
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The screen has the same 1.39 inches from Gen2 M45, so the advantage is just the better resolution (326ppi Gen3 vs 287ppi Gen2 M45). BTW, Gen2 M41 is also 326ppi like Gen3, in a -obviously smaller- 390x390 screen.

But both M45 and M41 have AMOLED screen, which is supposedly better (and more expensive) than the just OLED Gen3 screen, so the screen advantage is then not so relevant

AMOLED is irrelevant for power consumption of such a small screen compared to phones or tablets. The screen looks better. And I'm not going any further than this. I'm not TAG salesman to sell you the watch.

Should have tried it really.
 
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AMOLED is irrelevant for power consumption of such a small screen compared to phones or tablets. The screen looks better. And I'm not going any further than this. I'm not TAG salesman to sell you the watch.

Should have tried it really.
😁 No, I don’t need that you sell me the watch! 😉

Few of you are already lucky Gen3 owners, so many Gen2 owners are interested in the differences between both devices, because we only know Gen2 and we have not tried Gen3 yet.

So we were just comparing facts and specs from Gen2 and Gen3, and you talked about Gen3 “Always On Display” advantage over Gen2 (a setting which is also available on Gen2, and probably on Gen1 -I don’t know-) so I asked about this advantage, and your answer was that Gen3 screen is larger 1.40” over 1.39” (which is not true, because both are 1.39”) and with more resolution (true vs M45, not true vs M41)... but nothing about AOD differences 😕

So I assumed there’s no differences about the Always On Screen settings, so there’s no advantage here over Gen2 either

And as we were talking about the “better screen of Gen3”, then I found another -supposedly- step backwards here in quality (and another step forwards in cutting costs, but not in reducing final price): OLED Gen3 screen vs the AMOLED Gen2 screens (font: https://www.phoneworld.com.pk/amoled-vs-oled/)

 
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😁 No, I don’t need that you sell me the watch! 😉

Few of you are already lucky Gen3 owners, so many Gen2 owners are interested in the differences between both devices, because we only know Gen2 and we have not tried Gen3 yet.

So we were just comparing facts and specs from Gen2 and Gen3, and you talked about Gen3 “Always On Display” advantage over Gen2 (a setting which is also available on Gen2, and probably on Gen1 -I don’t know-)

I was not talking about this advantage! I said that the faces on a new screen look better in always on regime.

so I asked about this advantage, and your answer was that Gen3 screen is larger 1.40” over 1.39” (which is not true, because both are 1.39”) and with more resolution (true vs M45, not true vs M41)... but nothing about AOD differences 😕

1.39 vs 1.40 is not even noticeable. The resolution however matters as it gives clearer picture.

So I assumed there’s no differences about the Always On Screen settings, so there’s no advantage here over Gen2 either

And as we were talking about the “better screen of Gen3”, then I found another -supposedly- step backwards here in quality (and another step forwards in cutting costs, but not in reducing final price): OLED Gen3 screen vs the AMOLED Gen2 screens (font: https://www.phoneworld.com.pk/amoled-vs-oled/)

You should try the watch first. It will last for a few years at best. What difference does it make having OLED vs AMOLED? Or Swiss Made or China that nobody will ever notice??
 
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I was not talking about this advantage! I said that the faces on a new screen look better in always on regime.

Ok, as you wrote “In the end of the day the flashy side of the watch is always on display with a face you like.”, I misunderstood it, and I thought you were talking about a different AOD setting vs Gen2. Now I understand it’s not, just the screen difference, but you came from the (same resolution but smaller 390x390 screen) Gen2 M41, so it’s also normal you find differences about the screen because your M41 was 1.2” vs 1.39” of Gen3 and Gen2 M45

Thanks for the clarification 👍
 
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And better screen and battery. 😉

Also let's not forget way better charger, rotating crown, a bezel that actually looks ceramic, easier strap change, a "live" AOD, the sports app, and new watch faces.
 
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Always On Display setting was already available for Gen2 Modular.
What is the difference Gen3 vs Gen2 about AOD? This is my Gen2 with AOD on, and all pictures with the screen in dimmed mode

The gen 3 has the new 3100 chip. One of the features of this chip is a "live" AOD display. The information like stopwatch, etc., and second hand will update like a traditional watch on supported watch faces. Also AOD now supports more colors. Since this is in low power mode provided by the chip, it does not waste any extra battery. The AOD you show is with watchmaker which eats battery and is not officially supported.
 
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You should try the watch first. It will last for a few years at best. What difference does it make having OLED vs AMOLED? Or Swiss Made or China that nobody will ever notice??

Yes, I agree: I want to try the watch to have my own opinion about how it looks and feels 👍

About “nobody will ever notice” if it has better materials, or better quality components, or is it SWISS MADE or Made in China... Maybe, but I’m not wearing the watch for the others. Maybe it’s not important for you, but when talking about watches (and mostly luxury watches) it’s important for many of us, because we are also paying a luxury price for some added values (tradition, prestige, craftsmanship, labor price...). For this reason, you also can expect to pay a high price for a pair of “Made in Italy” shoes, but not for “China” shoes... even when both pairs could look identical. Call us “romantic” 😉

You think nobody will ever notice it, but I know it, it’s my watch, and I like to know my watch is made with best materials, best components, Swiss Made... or at least, If I have to buy a watch made with not so high-end materials, less expensive components, less costumization options, and Made in China instead of Swiss Made... I would expect that it were cheaper, but Gen3 it’s not! it’s quite more expensive than Gen2! 😵‍💫

This is like buying a Mercedes-Benz A-Class 180 d: it has a Renault engine, not everybody knows it, if you remove the badge nobody will ever notice there’s a Renault engine under the bonet, but if you know it, you were happier knowing that there is also a Mercedes engine under the bonet 😉... but in that example, at least you saved money when you bought the Renault powered car, because the A 200 d (with Mercedes engine) is more expensive than the A 180 d with Renault engine!

What I can’t understand -nor be happy- is this cost cutting operation they have done with Gen3, but increasing so much the price at the same time!
@TAG GUY said “tag could have done better for the price”, so maybe we could also say: “Gen3 should be not so expensive”, moreover because it’s not “future proof” like Gen1 and Gen2, so the complete investment will be lost when it becomes obsolete 🤔
 
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But both M45 and M41 have AMOLED screen, which is supposedly better (and more expensive) than the just OLED Gen3 screen, so the screen advantage is then not so relevant.
Wrong, AMOLED is just a commercial name of some manufacturers (Samsung). It’s not better than “just” OLED.
 
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About “nobody will ever notice” if it has better materials, or better quality components, or is it SWISS MADE or Made in China...

If this needs to be explained to someone then they just won't understand. There's absolutely no reason this watch should cost 2k now that it is outsourced to China.

A fossil group Emporio Armani watch is like 200 dollars. Same chip, similar screen, HR AND speaker. Same user interface, same, same, same. Yes this watch is made quite a bit better, but 1800 better? Maybe if it wasn't made in china, or titanium.

The best example is the Huawei watch series 1. Sapphire screen, HR, speaker, beautiful case, great packaging material, for under 400 dollars. Most people still consider this to be the best Android Wear watch of all time, in 2015..... There's only one reason why companies go to China, it's cheap. But yet the price increases? How could anyone buy this watch and not feel like a bit of a sucker?
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The gen 3 has the new 3100 chip. One of the features of this chip is a "live" AOD display. The information like stopwatch, etc., and second hand will update like a traditional watch on supported watch faces. Also AOD now supports more colors. Since this is in low power mode provided by the chip, it does not waste any extra battery. The AOD you show is with watchmaker which eats battery and is not officially supported.

Ok, thanks! 👍

So there’s a different AOD behaviour when wearing the factory installed faces, but it’s about the same when wearing WatchMaker faces like in the pictures I posted before (BTW, I have no problems at all with battery life wearing these WM faces AOD fully detailed and coloured in dimmed mode and 60% OPR)

I also understand that Gen3 factory installed faces don’t have a fully detailed and coloured dimmed mode (as you can have with WM app), but their dimmed mode is quite better than Gen2 with the factory installed faces. The reason why I never use the factory installed faces in my Gen2, because its dimmed mode is awful:



Could you (or someone) please post similar pictures of some of these new factory installed faces (Carrera style), to compare how it looks in brigth vs dimmed mode with this new live AOD?

Also, is it true that previous Carrera faces factory installed in Gen2, have disappeared from Gen3?

Thanks! 👍
 
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Wrong, AMOLED is just a commercial name of some manufacturers (Samsung). It’s not better than “just” OLED.
😲 So, do you mean that this long article talking about AMOLED vs OLED is wrong?

https://www.phoneworld.com.pk/amoled-vs-oled/

Y
ou can find many articles about this, and they say AMOLED is an advanced version of OLED, and also more expensive
 
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The gen 3 has the new 3100 chip. One of the features of this chip is a "live" AOD display. The information like stopwatch, etc., and second hand will update like a traditional watch on supported watch faces. Also AOD now supports more colors. Since this is in low power mode provided by the chip, it does not waste any extra battery. The AOD you show is with watchmaker which eats battery and is not officially supported.
I keep seeing references to the new 3100 chip. This SoC is not new, it's been used since 2017 and it's basic design is the same as the 2014 400. The fact is any smart watch produced today using WearOS only has the 3100 as a choice.
I have checked out the Gen3 and hope it is a success for TH, but for me it missed the bars of design,engineering and function set by the Gen2.
Design - All 3 major players (TH,Google & Intel) had a very visible part in the design and demo'd that by their presence and contribution at the CM45 release. I thought TH also added an element watch making craftsmanship with the watch. It more reminded me of a handcrafted sportscar of yesterday. Gen3 reminds me more of an assembly line sportscar of today with off the shelf components.
Engineering - They put a smart phone chip into a faraday cage and then engineered the BT and Wifi antenna's to provide solid(maybe best in class) reception. Gen3 looks like they chose materials and engineered it around the only choice of a 3100( to meet wireless transmission).
Function - This is debatable for sure, but the fact the the Gen2 is performing just as well with OS updates and we can utilize new tech like HRM included in wireless earphones doesn't really show any major gain for the Gen3. From a personal use standpoint I have also side loaded several apps made for a smartphone that have performed really well on the Gen2 not sure they could on the Gen3.

For me the Gen3 just didn't deliver that "I have to own one" the Gen2
 
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I keep seeing references to the new 3100 chip. This SoC is not new, it's been used since 2017 and it's basic design is the same as the 2014 400. The fact is any smart watch produced today using WearOS only has the 3100 as a choice.
I have checked out the Gen3 and hope it is a success for TH, but for me it missed the bars of design,engineering and function set by the Gen2.
Design - All 3 major players (TH,Google & Intel) had a very visible part in the design and demo'd that by their presence and contribution at the CM45 release. I thought TH also added an element watch making craftsmanship with the watch. It more reminded me of a handcrafted sportscar of yesterday. Gen3 reminds me more of an assembly line sportscar of today with off the shelf components.
Engineering - They put a smart phone chip into a faraday cage and then engineered the BT and Wifi antenna's to provide solid(maybe best in class) reception. Gen3 looks like they chose materials and engineered it around the only choice of a 3100( to meet wireless transmission).
Function - This is debatable for sure, but the fact the the Gen2 is performing just as well with OS updates and we can utilize new tech like HRM included in wireless earphones doesn't really show any major gain for the Gen3. From a personal use standpoint I have also side loaded several apps made for a smartphone that have performed really well on the Gen2 not sure they could on the Gen3.

For me the Gen3 just didn't deliver that "I have to own one" the Gen2

New as in it's the newest wearOS chip, I know it's quite outdated, was kinda outdated at launch. Your right in all points and it is a shame. Although the gen 3 is noticably faster in processing than the 45. I love my gen 3, but everytime I see the 45 sitting on my desk, awaiting to be sold, I get a bit sad inside ☹️
 
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Ok, thanks! 👍

So there’s a different AOD behaviour when wearing the factory installed faces, but it’s about the same when wearing WatchMaker faces like in the pictures I posted before (BTW, I have no problems at all with battery life wearing these WM faces AOD fully detailed and coloured in dimmed mode and 60% OPR)

I also understand that Gen3 factory installed faces don’t have a fully detailed and coloured dimmed mode (as you can have with WM app), but their dimmed mode is quite better than Gen2 with the factory installed faces. The reason why I never use the factory installed faces in my Gen2, because its dimmed mode is awful:



Could you (or someone) please post similar pictures of some of these new factory installed faces (Carrera style), to compare how it looks in brigth vs dimmed mode with this new live AOD?

Also, is it true that previous Carrera faces factory installed in Gen2, have disappeared from Gen3?

Thanks! 👍
All gen 2 faces are gone. Supposedly tag will be periodically releasing new ones.


Second hand sweeps in the AOD mode