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Mspeedster
·whoaaa heavy hitter vintage !
Does the Tudor submariner is the most expensive of the three ?
What is your next purchase? / Wishlist?
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OttoWilliam
·Actually the Rolex Sub was the most expensive, even though the Tudor Sub was in much better condition.
I thought since it was not the red sub it would not be too expensive. I guess Rolex is still the king of after market after all.
Cheers ! 👍
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thingziliketoo
·Had some fun trying on a few vintage pieces.
I bought something too, which I'll reveal later... 😗
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Jim Dollares
·Wow Michael has finally bought himself a nos 1133b? 😎
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Yago
·Ic, thanks for the info.
I thought since it was not the red sub it would not be too expensive. I guess Rolex is still the king of after market after all.
Cheers ! 👍
The Tudor sub is really nice. What did they ask for that one?
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Mspeedster
·Wow Michael has finally bought himself a nos 1133b? 😎
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Mspeedster
·That Rolex 5513 sub will be at least 15k.
The Tudor sub is really nice. What did they ask for that one?
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Yago
·How did the 5513 compare to your 14060?
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·How did the 5513 compare to your 14060?
I mainly wanted to try on the Autavia Viceroy as a test to see how I like the 1163 case. I think the Rindt 2446 style is more for me, but those are so expensive.
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Jim Dollares
·Since I've bought all of my watches new, it's a bit of a mind adjustment looking at all the nicks and scratches on these vintage pieces.
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Yago
·Yeah you want your vintsge pieces as good as you can find them but I do love genuine patina. Discolored lume, faded dials and bezels, nicks and scratches. All adds to the charm.
Half my furniture is from the ‘60s and ‘70s so I would like old watches.
Half my furniture is from the ‘60s and ‘70s so I would like old watches.
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imagwai
·This is what holds me back from vintage too. I have never liked used stuff at all, not only with watches. Never found it charming when something is beaten up by previous owners. Vintage looking re-editions are the perfect thing
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Jim Dollares
·I tend to agree, but a good condition/NOS vintage piece with creamy lume can't be beaten.
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Aquagraph
·Does that mean the Zenith 🤮 is off the table?
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·I suppose I like how watch design or design and architecture in general capture zeitgeist. These were designed and made at a certain time and are basically time capsules. You can buy 1/1 re-editions (from other brands than TAG Heuer) but these will always be retro watches. Yes they have merit because they are beautiful in their own right and expose a lot of people to a design they maybe didn't know about.
I own a few furniture design classics from the '60s and up. A lot of these are still in production today and that is great. But they don't feel as real to me as the original from its age, with the wear of a life well lived. As with watches you can have the real deal, the actual piece from its age, and often even cheaper than the retro piece. It's a no brainer. These watches will last forever.
A few stories:
When I was in kindergarten a Japanese dude bought himself a nice Rolex sub, or maybe was gifted one. He wore the watch a lot but treated it well and he even held on to the box and papers for me and for the people after me.
When I was in my first year of primary school a woman in Washington state bought herself an at the time crazy lemon yellow Porsche 911. She also kept all the paperwork and service receipts throughout her time with the car for me and others after me to enjoy.
When my Carrera 3647n was first bought in 1968, Jack Heuer was in his prime, Graham Hill became WC. There was also a revolution in Europe, MLK was assassinated and the Vietnam war was still going on. Also my dad was 20 and my mom 17 years old. They didn't have a lot of money and still had to give most of their paychecks to their parents. Buying a watch would have been unthinkable.
How does a new watch beat that?
I own a few furniture design classics from the '60s and up. A lot of these are still in production today and that is great. But they don't feel as real to me as the original from its age, with the wear of a life well lived. As with watches you can have the real deal, the actual piece from its age, and often even cheaper than the retro piece. It's a no brainer. These watches will last forever.
A few stories:
When I was in kindergarten a Japanese dude bought himself a nice Rolex sub, or maybe was gifted one. He wore the watch a lot but treated it well and he even held on to the box and papers for me and for the people after me.
When I was in my first year of primary school a woman in Washington state bought herself an at the time crazy lemon yellow Porsche 911. She also kept all the paperwork and service receipts throughout her time with the car for me and others after me to enjoy.
When my Carrera 3647n was first bought in 1968, Jack Heuer was in his prime, Graham Hill became WC. There was also a revolution in Europe, MLK was assassinated and the Vietnam war was still going on. Also my dad was 20 and my mom 17 years old. They didn't have a lot of money and still had to give most of their paychecks to their parents. Buying a watch would have been unthinkable.
How does a new watch beat that?
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Aquagraph
·Okay, so are you saying you like the Zenith (or old things) not because it's aesthetically pleasing, but because it is an artefact of its time? If so, I can agree on that. I mean I can't really argue the Tristar is aesthetically pleasing, can I? But I like it cos it is what it is. But on the other hand I wouldn't pay $7k for it.
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Jim Dollares
·Okay, so are you saying you like the Zenith (or old things) not because it's aesthetically pleasing, but because it is an artefact of its time? If so, I can agree on that. I mean I can't really argue the Tristar is aesthetically pleasing, can I? But I like it cos it is what it is. But on the other hand I wouldn't pay $7k for it.
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Yago
·The Tristar is also cool because it was worn by a Soviet general, as he sent tens of thousands of people to work in the gulags
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Yago
·Okay, so are you saying you like the Zenith (or old things) not because it's aesthetically pleasing, but because it is an artefact of its time? If so, I can agree on that. I mean I can't really argue the Tristar is aesthetically pleasing, can I? But I like it cos it is what it is. But on the other hand I wouldn't pay $7k for it.
I like the zenith because it is aesthetically pleasing and allows lots of people to learn about the model and thus history of Zenith. I mignt prefer a vintage model over this one but I haven’t seen one in the metal yet.
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