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·This one over that Zenith, any day of the week 😝
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Aquagraph
·You didn't hate quartz until someone told you too.. very true.
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·You didn't hate quartz until someone told you to
I didn't 'hate' quartz until I learned that mechanical watches existed. Nobody told me to dislike it, but I just can't connect with a watch with a battery-powered plastic movement. Sure there are nice ones out there like Spring Drives etc, but nothing has yet overcome that feeling. As much as I love the titanium Solargraphs even
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·I didn't 'hate' quartz until I learned that mechanical watches existed. Nobody told me to dislike it, but I just can't connect with a watch with a battery-powered plastic movement. Sure there are nice ones out there like Spring Drives etc, but nothing has yet overcome that feeling. As much as I love the titanium Solargraphs even
I didn’t hate mechanical movements until I found how fragile they are to vibration and magnetic damage, and how their accuracy is an order of magnitude worse than the cheapest quartz movement. I could respect the anti-quartz, mechanical is pure concept, if TH movements had features like anti-mag and anti vibration.
Trying to cold start my calibre 5 AR on a winter morning really makes me appreciate my quartz night diver.
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·I didn’t hate mechanical movements until I found how fragile they are to vibration and magnetic damage, and how their accuracy is an order of magnitude worse than the cheapest quartz movement. I could respect the anti-quartz, mechanical is pure concept, if TH movements had features like anti-mag and anti vibration.
Trying to cold start my calibre 5 AR on a winter morning really makes me appreciate my quartz night diver.
Yeah, I've got enough of a collection now that I have a few cheap winders I'll put those kinds of watches on (and I no longer own any Cal 5 TAGs) but I hear you.
For me a mechanical watch is like an old Ferrari or Alfa - it has its foibles but ultimately they become character traits and it doesn't matter because you're not depending on them (for basic transportation or time-telling as it were).
Also, my iPhone (as well as the computer I sit behind all day during the week) keep better time than any quartz...
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Jim Dollares
·I no longer own any Cal 5 TAGs
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Mspeedster
·I also thought this was a great quote in the video: "there's no too small watch, just too small confidence". 😉
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·It was interesting what they said about Grand Seiko. It's too perfect, like a render without a soul (or words to that effect).
Charlie will not be pleased.
Charlie will not be pleased.
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·It was interesting what they said about Grand Seiko. It's too perfect, like a render without a soul (or words to that effect).
Charlie will not be pleased.
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·Did you abandon the fun, exciting, avant-garde Aquaracer club???
I did. Found I never wore the 844 Edition, and figured I could live without the Orange Diver as I've had to reduce the collection recently. Prob would've kept the Orange if I could
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·I did. Found I never wore the 844 Edition, and figured I could live without the Orange Diver as I've had to reduce the collection recently. Prob would've kept the Orange if I could
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·Not been viewing YouTube for a while, for many reasons you just all know from my other posts. Anyway, I used to enjoy Jenni’s stuff and this one is no exception. Actually, it’s different to her other stuff as she bounces of her guy. Really enjoyed their responses and the whole vibe to this one.
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·I think the New vs Vantage point was where I sit. Whilst I recognise it’s not everyone’s opinion, I general gravitate to the newest version of something, unless there’s either no new version or the design has taken a turn for the worst.
I usually buy good quality stuff that I think (or hope) will last from both a physical point of view but also design wise. On that basis, I set out with the intention of keeping those items for the long haul.
I guess I don’t understand buying something that’s already vintage, when I can buy new and let it become vintage during my ownership. Whilst I get that it won’t truly be vintage as I won’t be around long enough, but there’s something about the idea of it ageing with me. If someone asks me about my Seamaster/Aquracer in 30 years time, I can tell them about how I bought it new and have worn it since. There’s just something weird about that story if I said it was old when I bought it and now it’s just older.
Just my mentality and not a dig at anyone buying vintage, it just depends on the reason why you’re buying vintage.
I usually buy good quality stuff that I think (or hope) will last from both a physical point of view but also design wise. On that basis, I set out with the intention of keeping those items for the long haul.
I guess I don’t understand buying something that’s already vintage, when I can buy new and let it become vintage during my ownership. Whilst I get that it won’t truly be vintage as I won’t be around long enough, but there’s something about the idea of it ageing with me. If someone asks me about my Seamaster/Aquracer in 30 years time, I can tell them about how I bought it new and have worn it since. There’s just something weird about that story if I said it was old when I bought it and now it’s just older.
Just my mentality and not a dig at anyone buying vintage, it just depends on the reason why you’re buying vintage.
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·the reason why you’re buying vintage
For me, the vintage watch means something because they were created and worn for a purpose in their time. Modern watches, as much as I love em, are really just luxuries. (Which I am fine with! But there's a reason I have a mix)
Plus, vintage watches have a size advantage - they're just designed right while many modern watches (chronographs in particular) are just too bloated.
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·That’s a fair reasoning and appreciate a different view.
Keep the opinions coming.
Keep the opinions coming.
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·I think the New vs Vantage point was where I sit. Whilst I recognise it’s not everyone’s opinion, I general gravitate to the newest version of something, unless there’s either no new version or the design has taken a turn for the worst.
I usually buy good quality stuff that I think (or hope) will last from both a physical point of view but also design wise. On that basis, I set out with the intention of keeping those items for the long haul.
I guess I don’t understand buying something that’s already vintage, when I can buy new and let it become vintage during my ownership. Whilst I get that it won’t truly be vintage as I won’t be around long enough, but there’s something about the idea of it ageing with me. If someone asks me about my Seamaster/Aquracer in 30 years time, I can tell them about how I bought it new and have worn it since. There’s just something weird about that story if I said it was old when I bought it and now it’s just older.
Just my mentality and not a dig at anyone buying vintage, it just depends on the reason why you’re buying vintage.
Some may think I'm firmly in the vintage or heritage inspired camp, but this isn't true. I enjoy modern and retro just about equally. In fact, the reason I often lament about TAG's heritage inspired pieces is because I'd rather buy a new re-edition over a 40-50+ year old vintage piece.
But more often than not, TAG's re-editions have left me liking the vintage originals more, so I want TAG to do better. A good example is Omega's 321 Ed White re-edition, which most find more desirable than the vintage original.
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·For me, the vintage watch means something because they were created and worn for a purpose in their time. Modern watches, as much as I love em, are really just luxuries. (Which I am fine with! But there's a reason I have a mix)
Plus, vintage watches have a size advantage - they're just designed right while many modern watches (chronographs in particular) are just too bloated.
For me, vintage wins in cases where the watch model has a specific historical significance or nostalgia that's meaningful for me.
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·I think the New vs Vantage point was where I sit. Whilst I recognise it’s not everyone’s opinion, I general gravitate to the newest version of something, unless there’s either no new version or the design has taken a turn for the worst.
I usually buy good quality stuff that I think (or hope) will last from both a physical point of view but also design wise. On that basis, I set out with the intention of keeping those items for the long haul.
I guess I don’t understand buying something that’s already vintage, when I can buy new and let it become vintage during my ownership. Whilst I get that it won’t truly be vintage as I won’t be around long enough, but there’s something about the idea of it ageing with me. If someone asks me about my Seamaster/Aquracer in 30 years time, I can tell them about how I bought it new and have worn it since. There’s just something weird about that story if I said it was old when I bought it and now it’s just older.
Just my mentality and not a dig at anyone buying vintage, it just depends on the reason why you’re buying vintage.
However, I do think Many of today’s modern watches will never really become vintage like old ones, however, purely down to the materials they use.
a ceramic bezel as an example is highly unlikely ever to show the patina that an aluminium would. Neither modern luninova.
Michael’s example of the Ed White is a good one. I’ve been lucky enough to have owned that watch for the thick end of 2 years (prior to moving on). It’s absolutely terrific and is a one for one copy - but it is extremely clinical in its execution.
If I was in the market for an E/W again (or any speedmaster for that matter), I’d 100% go vintage and have a smile on my face at the old warhorse who keeps going (FWIW I reckon if you polled most omega forum members, most would prefer the vintage all things being equal).
having said that, I’m currently in a full blown love affair with a reedition of a Heuer Carrera.
these things don’t need to make sense. No right or wrong answers - only personal preference really.
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·I also agreed with their take on vintage. Which BTW was the only time TAG Heuer came up, not verbally, but in the form of vintage Heuers being shown.
Some may think I'm firmly in the vintage or heritage inspired camp, but this isn't true. I enjoy modern and retro just about equally. In fact, the reason I often lament about TAG's heritage inspired pieces is because I'd rather buy a new re-edition over a 40-50+ year old vintage piece.
But more often than not, TAG's re-editions have left me liking the vintage originals more, so I want TAG to do better. A good example is Omega's 321 Ed White re-edition, which most find more desirable than the vintage original.
You do come across like you’re Heritage all the way, but then you also turn up with that Ikuzawa to dispel that thought. 😀
