Monaco calibre 11 v calibre 12 v calibre 36 v Heuer 02

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For me, the Monaco is ALL about heritage. All Monacos are nice, but in my opinion, there are a few things that make a Monaco, a Monaco.

While the modern Calibre 11 movement shares only the name with the original, it still offers the truest representation of the original Monaco. That means the crown on the left at 9-o'clock. I love that both from a heritage perspective, but also from an aesthetic one. For me, the watch design feels more balanced with the crown on the left when combined with the big, chunky, square case. Right-hand crown Monacos just feel like there's too much 'weight' on one side of the case.

I also feel the horizontal hour marker indices work a lot better in the square case than the radial style that you get on some of the more modern versions, and older right-hand crown Monacos.

So while the modern Calibre 11 is far from the world's most advanced movement and the 02 is technically superior in most every tangible way, I think it's all of the intangibles that define what a Monaco is all about, and I think at the end of the day, if I could only have one Monaco, I'd regret it if I didn't choose the one that embodied what that watch is all about. And I think at the end of the day, what the movement inside is only tells so much about a Monaco. What the watch embodies in the grand scheme of watch history is something else, and only a Calibre 11 Monaco truly tells that story, in my humble opinion.

The Monaco is a watch that has a legacy that is defined by more than the sum of it's parts and beyond the fact that Steve McQueen wore it, it's actually an extremely horologically significant watch for a variety of reasons. For that, I'd always, and really, ONLY consider the Calibre 11.

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For me, the Monaco is ALL about heritage. All Monacos are nice, but in my opinion, there are a few things that make a Monaco, a Monaco.

While the modern Calibre 11 movement shares only the name with the original, it still offers the truest representation of the original Monaco. That means the crown on the left at 9-o'clock. I love that both from a heritage perspective, but also from an aesthetic one. For me, the watch design feels more balanced with the crown on the left when combined with the big, chunky, square case. Right-hand crown Monacos just feel like there's too much 'weight' on one side of the case.

I also feel the horizontal hour marker indices work a lot better in the square case than the radial style that you get on some of the more modern versions, and older right-hand crown Monacos.

So while the modern Calibre 11 is far from the world's most advanced movement and the 02 is technically superior in most every tangible way, I think it's all of the intangibles that define what a Monaco is all about, and I think at the end of the day, if I could only have one Monaco, I'd regret it if I didn't choose the one that embodied what that watch is all about. And I think at the end of the day, what the movement inside is only tells so much about a Monaco. What the watch embodies in the grand scheme of watch history is something else, and only a Calibre 11 Monaco truly tells that story, in my humble opinion.

The Monaco is a watch that has a legacy that is defined by more than the sum of it's parts and beyond the fact that Steve McQueen wore it, it's actually an extremely horologically significant watch for a variety of reasons. For that, I'd always, and really, ONLY consider the Calibre 11.

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thanks for your input. I guess then you would also go for the classic blue dial over the gulf or any other dials ?
If the H02 was adjusted to take a left crown would that change your mind ?
 
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thanks for your input. I guess then you would also go for the classic blue dial over the gulf or any other dials ?
If the H02 was adjusted to take a left crown would that change your mind ?

As far as the dial goes, the classic matte blue dial, white subdials, horizontal indices, etc. represent such a perfect look for the Monaco. I'm also very drawn to CAW211B - the 'Vintage Edition' from 2010, which was the modern interpretation of the 1133G, with the grey dial. I love all C11 Monacos, but those two are my favorites, and I'd say of the 16 different modern C11 Monacos, the Gulf ones are by far my least favorite. I'm also really drawn to CAW211E (the Green McQeen) and CAW211X (the 1990s 50th Anniversary) Monacos.

I can't say that I'm an expert on the 02, so this post is coming with a certain amount of ignorance. While the current Calibre 11 movement doesn't have anything to do with the original, it is still a modular chronograph design, like the original - a chronograph module added on top of a base movement. I can't say that the 02 isn't a similar setup, because I just don't know... but I do like that about the Calibre 11.

But I kind of feel like the Calibre 11, even though it's only a Calibre 11 by name is another aspect of that Monaco heritage that I'm so drawn to. It feels kind of special in that I'm fairly certain it's a movement used ONLY in the Monaco at this point, whereas the 02 is used in everything under the sun. Even though the C11 is the least technically impressive, it's the most desirable to me. So I Don't think I'd consider a LHC 02 Monaco.

Frederic Arnault has also said that the company is considering doing a new, legit reissue of the original micro-rotor Calibre 11 for a special edition Monaco, which would surely be really cool, and also very expensive. This would be similar to how Omega did the 321 Ed White Re-Issue Speedmasters, recently.

CAW211B - The 'Vintage Edition' - A Modern take on the original 1133G
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CAW211E - Men's Club Japan Limited Edition - The Green McQueen
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CAW211X - The 1990s 50th Anniversary Monaco
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Great choices sir @MonacoMike ! Agree with you, if you'll just have one Monaco, get the Steve McQueen Monaco 👍 We have to appreciate what TAG Heuer has done and made it into (CAW211P)roduction so a lot of fans can appreciate the watch and as a homage to SMQ. It's actually an iconic best seller for TAG Heuer so I'm sure they will still continue with this. I have nothing against the C11/C12 movement and I don't consider it inferior in anyway to other movements, even the Heuer 02.

Movements are like car engines to me. The heart of the watch, like engines are the heart of a car. You don't simply dismiss engines of the past just because a more powerful one comes out. So I appreciate it for what it is. It's like Porsche's air-cooled flat 6, Toyota's 4AGE/2JZ engine, Mazda's Wankel Rotary, Honda's B engine, Nissan's RB26 so on and so forth etc Part of the Heuer Monaco is the movement, so best to get a destro 😉
 
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I can't say that the 02 isn't a similar setup, because I just don't know

The H02 is a fully integrated chronograph movement.
 
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Here is another option to melt your brain, the CAW211C:

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Calibre 11 movement with LH crown, but with radial hour markers.
 
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Here is another option to melt your brain, the CAW211C:

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Calibre 11 movement with LH crown, but with radial hour markers.

Yup, there have been a few C11 Monacos with the radial style markers. I rather like them.

CAW211D The striped McQueen
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French Edition CAW211S
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The Hourglass LE CAW211U
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Yup, there have been a few C11 Monacos with the radial style markers. I rather like them.

CAW211D The striped McQueen
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French Edition CAW211S
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The Hourglass LE CAW211U
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The hourglass limited edition is also the only one to feature an Arabic numeral on the main dial.
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The hourglass limited edition is also the only one to feature a Roman numeral on the main dial.
In the case of the C11's, yes good observation. Of course the Monaco 24 has "24".
 
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I remember reading an article referencing this Hourglass LE Monaco from the Dark Lord Monaco but to me, it isn’t quite so. Probably a proper Dark Lord Monaco Re-edition will come soon 😉
 
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The hourglass limited edition is also the only one to feature a Roman numeral on the main dial.
I don't think you really meant Roman numeral, right? Because that would be XII for 12.
 
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I remember reading an article referencing this Hourglass LE Monaco from the Dark Lord Monaco but to me, it isn’t quite so. Probably a proper Dark Lord Monaco Re-edition will come soon 😉
If they took the French edition, gave it black subdials and used the Hourglass's case they'd be close. But they're obviously saving a Dark Lord re-edition for some future occasion. Who knows when we'll ever see it. 😒
 
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I don't think you really meant Roman numeral, right? Because that would be XII for 12.

Arabic numerals.
 
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The H02 is a fully integrated chronograph movement.

That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't positive. I didn't want to mis-speak.

So it's a technically superior movement to the Calibre 11, but the Calibre 11 is still the one that gets me excited for it's 'sort-of' heritage.
 
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I don't think you really meant Roman numeral, right? Because that would be XII for 12.

My mistake! Was typing quickly while waiting in the drive-through!