Is my TAG Heuer Authentic? All questions here please

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I am actually shocked that F1s still use split pins. Someone said it the other day and I thought .... naaaaaaaaaaaaah!
 
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North of $50,000 I'm pretty sure you'd know if you actually had a real one.
 
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North of $50,000 I'm pretty sure you'd know if you actually had a real one.
Im unable to post the images, and its says 20000 on the top, My dad got it around 10years ago
 
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I see some pictures online that show raised indices.
It's a CAZ101AL - there are probably more fakes out there than genuine ones. The fakes all have raised indices, probably because they were based on the render and not the actual watch. There are several other tells, but the indices is enough to be sure.
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It's quite obviously fake.
 
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It's a CAZ101AL - there are probably more fakes out there than genuine ones. The fakes all have raised indices, probably because they were based on the render and not the actual watch. There are several other tells, but the indices is enough to be sure.
Which indices are you referring to?

Here's two shots taken by @Anthony. at a TH Boutique, the numbers are raised. But the rest of the markings are flat.
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Which indices are you referring to?

Here's two shots taken by @Anthony. at a TH Boutique, the numbers are raised. But the rest of the markings are flat.
Curious, since the only genuine CAZ101ALs I've seen in person have been flat not raised:

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Older ones shared the "blurry" logo at 12 on the bezel, along with the painted-over subdial hands, which isn't the case with that one.

Perhaps it was a pre-release, or maybe the applied indices are a regional thing?
 
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It's missing a hand to record the 1/20000 of a second so that's a big tell.

Also "Since 1880" is 20 years later than Heuer was actually founded.
 
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Curious, since the only genuine CAZ101ALs I've seen in person have been flat not raised:

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Older ones shared the "blurry" logo at 12 on the bezel, along with the painted-over subdial hands, which isn't the case with that one.

Perhaps it was a pre-release, or maybe the applied indices are a regional thing?
@Anthony.'s shots were taken in Australia when the watch was first released in Feb 2022. I also tried it on at a US TAG Heuer Boutique a few weeks later, here's my shot. The numbers are also raised.
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I'm tempted to visit a local AD to see if the numbers have changed to a flat design.
 
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@Anthony.'s shots were taken in Australia when the watch was first released in Feb 2022. I also tried it on at a US TAG Heuer Boutique a few weeks later, here's my shot. The numbers are also raised.

I'm tempted to visit a local AD to see if the numbers have changed to a flat design.
I'm going to check myself as soon as I get the chance - I've noted the date window appears different between yours and @Anthony.'s pictures, but the design of the center sections on the 9 and 8 is squared off and the cut-off section of the 0 at 10 is the same. These still differ from the CAZ fakes I've seen with raised numbers, but closeup shots would be useful.
 
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I'm going to check myself as soon as I get the chance - I've noted the date window appears different between yours and @Anthony.'s pictures, but the design of the center sections on the 9 and 8 is squared off and the cut-off section of the 0 at 10 is the same. These still differ from the CAZ fakes I've seen with raised numbers, but closeup shots would be useful.
Here is the closeup shot from mine.

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Here is the closeup shot from mine.

Given key differences between the two pictures, likely caused by post-processing on the camera/phone, you're going to have to be the judge yourself at this point - take a look at the circles of the 8, 6, and 9:

Yours:
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Also the cutoff part of the 10:

Yours:
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Did you receive any paperwork/swing tags/labels with the watch? Can you also provide a caseback picture (as good as the ones you just posted, great work btw)?
 
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I'm going to check myself as soon as I get the chance - I've noted the date window appears different between yours and @Anthony.'s pictures, but the design of the center sections on the 9 and 8 is squared off and the cut-off section of the 0 at 10 is the same. These still differ from the CAZ fakes I've seen with raised numbers, but closeup shots would be useful.
I looked at Instagram pics from some known ADs. From what I can tell, when released in Feb 2022, the Red Bull F1 had raised number markers. Then sometime in 2023 it seems there was changed to the flat style number markers.

This shot is from an AD in June 2022, the numbers are raised.
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This one from June 2023, the numbers look flat.
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This one from Mar 2024, the numbers look flat.
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