Is my TAG Heuer Authentic? All questions here please

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That particular watch doesn’t come with a cyclops. Google the model then choose Tag’s site on it to see what it should really look like. Tag doesn’t make the quartz movement in that watch so you need to do some research to see what movement that watch is supposed to have. There may be several depending on production date. Swiss quartz movements including the one in the genuine version of that watch run about 30-50US so counterfeiters always choose a swiss quartz caliber movement. So there’s really no way your jeweler could tell by looking at the movement itself unless he/she knew as much about that particular watch as Tag Heuer themselves.
That particular watch doesn’t come with a cyclops. Google the model then choose Tag’s site on it to see what it should really look like. Tag doesn’t make the quartz movement in that watch so you need to do some research to see what movement that watch is supposed to have. There may be several depending on production date. Swiss quartz movements including the one in the genuine version of that watch run about 30-50US so counterfeiters always choose a swiss quartz caliber movement. So there’s really no way your jeweler could tell by looking at the movement itself unless he/she knew as much about that particular watch as Tag Heuer themselves.

Below are three different companies/listings selling the watch model I think I bought, WAY101E.FC8222. Aquaracer, cyclops, quartz movement. Are they all fake or all have aftermarket cyclopes? I don't think so, I think model "WAY101E.FC8222" exists.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304826143200
https://www.jomashop.com/tag-heuer-aquaracer-watch-way101e-fc8222.html
https://garymichaelsfinejewelry.com/catalog/tag-heuer-us/way101efc8222/
 
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Its not shown for that model on Tag's own website. That's an online purchase portal too so the pictures must be accurate. F8222 is the bracelet style. Not sure why you don't believe the official source of truth. Maybe you can add a cyclops at checkout, but I never saw that for my connected Tag when I bought it online (would have been nice to have too).

https://www.tagheuer.com/us/en/time...er-aquaracer/43-mm-quartz/WAY101L.FC8222.html

Sorry if I seem dense, but this seems to be where the disconnect for me is.The watch in that link is clearly labeled as a "WAY101L.FC8222". The watch I'm saying I bought on eBay (for about $600 I'm saying for the 1st time cause we seem to be having a nice conversation) Are you saying WAY101E.FC8222 does not exist?
 
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When you have the second jeweler open the case, have him tell you what the movement is and post it here. Here's a link to the watch movements that Tag uses. You can use it to research the movement most likely to be in your watch:
https://calibercorner.com/tag/tag-heuer/
 
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But you can feel free to keep it. Chrono24 has two listings for genuine versions of your watch. Interestingly both have a cyclops so maybe that is an option on this model:
https://www.chrono24.com/search/ind...e&searchexplain=1&watchTypes=&accessoryTypes=

WOOW! Did you just agree this model watch existed? Now we're getting somewhere haha jk, I always assumed the watch model existed. The question is wether its real or clone. If they cloned a watch that never existed, that'd be pretty sloppy.
 
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So chrono24 shows listings for WAY101L with no cyclops and WAY101E with cyclops. So E must be with cyclops. Agree its a factory option.
 
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When you have the second jeweler open the case, have him tell you what the movement is and post it here. Here's a link to the watch movements that Tag uses. You can use it to research the movement most likely to be in your watch:
https://calibercorner.com/tag/tag-heuer/

Done, I'm getting a image of the movement for sure to post on here. Im genuinely curious. If y'all can help me return a dud lets do it. I hope I got this watch on the cheap, but only $550 at risk. We'll get to the bottom of this. Im not a watch novice, I own rolexes, omegas, seikos so I know watches, just my first Tag Hauer and I want it to be right.
 
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The bezel pip looks really suspicious to me. Also be sure to check to see if the crystal is flush with the bezel. Fakers use sapphire crystals from alibaba so don't have perfect height dimensions. Sapphire is very brittle and chips easily on the edge which is why Tag makes them flush.
 
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Mostly I believe WAY101E is genuine is because a validated dealer on chronos24 lists it. Interestingly only two vs. many for WAY101L. So may be rare or may be fake. Put your serial number on the back (it'll be etched under the model number on a real Tag) into Tag's serial validation site and see if the model comes up as a WAY101E to be definitive about the model:

https://www.was.tagheuer.com/AfterSalesService/CustomerWarranties

If it says the warranty is valid, don't consider that proof of authenticity however (I made that mistake before I was educated here). Counterfeiters purchase real watches for the serial number then duplicate it on hundreds of fakes. It will tell us if a WAY101E is a valid model however. I'm guessing it will be.
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Mostly I believe WAY101E is genuine is because a validated dealer on chronos24 lists it. Interestingly only two vs. many for WAY101L. So may be rare or may be fake. Put your serial number on the back (it'll be etched under the model number on a real Tag) into Tag's serial validation site and see if the model comes up as a WAY101E to be definitive about the model:

https://www.was.tagheuer.com/AfterSalesService/CustomerWarranties

If it says the warranty is valid, don't consider that proof of authenticity however (I made that mistake before I was educated here). Counterfeiters purchase real watches for the serial number then duplicate it on hundreds of fakes. It will tell us if a WAY101E is a valid model however. I'm guessing it will be.

"WAY101E.FC8222
Serial Number: BLANK
Warranty code: FWLM-CCLH-C4NK
Reference: WAY101E.FC8222
Description: WTCH AQPRE QRTZ MG STEEL DI KAKI BR NYL
Warranty Type: Sale Warranty
Warranty activated: 2022/03/05
Valid until: 2024/03/05
WAY101E.FC8222 "

Above is what comes up thru Tags website.
 
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"E" is a dial code too. So WAY101E is a cyclops version of that particular aquaracer. Yours should be precisely centered over the date as shown above. Price/lack of box/seller makes it suspicious as jamesbizs indicates. That guy really knows the differences and has talked to many dealers and counterfeiters alike. If he says its fake, its pretty much a lock. Also, why would a new watch have its warranty activated over a year and a half ago? Seems suspicious.

So lets get a look at your movement next and you should also compare the bezel lume pip on your watch to that pic above. Real Tags have a precise lume pip like what's shown. Equal distance to all sides of the triangle. Doesn't look like lume was just poured in. Mine looks like a precise sphere that was embedded into the bezel. Also dial/bezel colors. On a real Tag, those colors will pop because they use expensive dyes for their dials. And the crystal check of course.
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The ebay link does not go to the seller I bought this watch from.
Then show me who you did buy it from, because it's not just a coincidence that I found the same watch for the same price range, brand new with tags, and no box. This whole brand new with no box thing, is a new thing they are doing.

LIke this guy.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?item=314884168224&rt=nc&_ssn=cwmney39&LH_Complete=1
Or maybe you bought it from this guy.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?item=305209577983&rt=nc&_ssn=thoande-8619&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1
Or you bought it from the 2 other sellers, selling the exact same thing, for the exact same prices, with the exact same sales record. ALL fakes.
 
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When you have the second jeweler open the case, have him tell you what the movement is and post it here. Here's a link to the watch movements that Tag uses. You can use it to research the movement most likely to be in your watch:
https://calibercorner.com/tag/tag-heuer/
Not really any point to this, because as discussed, the fakes use real movements now. It's just generic movements.
 
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The genuine version of his watch is most likely to have an ETA Caliber 955.112 movement. It won't have a Rhonda movement for sure but it may also have a ETA Caliber F03.111. Both seemed popular Tag choices for aquaracers of this vintage. Many ppl on caliber corner reported that their WAY1xxx watches had the 955.112 and my WAY111C has it also. The fake I shared here had a Rhonda movement. Agree, not a definitive check but another piece of evidence to add to the pile. We can also check to see if its been screwed in or not.
 
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@NewbGuy90210 this discussion turned into a bit of a mess didn't it 😜

WAY101E does exist and is an actual model released by TAG Heuer, with a cyclops yes.

I am sorry to hear that your local jeweler told you that your fake watch is genuine. This just goes to show how easy it is for Ebay to continue getting away with their criminal activities. There is zero doubt that the watch you posted a photo of is fake.
 
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@NewbGuy90210 this discussion turned into a bit of a mess didn't it 😜

WAY101E does exist and is an actual model released by TAG Heuer, with a cyclops yes.

I am sorry to hear that your local jeweler told you that your fake watch is genuine. This just goes to show how easy it is for Ebay to continue getting away with their criminal activities. There is zero doubt that the watch you posted a photo of is fake.
so based on the photo alone, what makes you have zero doubt that the watch is fake? I hate photos with these models, cause just a little bit of a wrong angle, or bad lighting, throws everything off. That's why I really like when they give you the sellers name, so that I can show them ( as I did with those 3 other accounts), why the watch is fake based on the sellers other sales. But with quartz and steel insert bezels, it's harder to tell, unless the lume is really bad, or it's a really good picture.
 
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@NewbGuy90210 this discussion turned into a bit of a mess didn't it 😜

WAY101E does exist and is an actual model released by TAG Heuer, with a cyclops yes.

I am sorry to hear that your local jeweler told you that your fake watch is genuine. This just goes to show how easy it is for Ebay to continue getting away with their criminal activities. There is zero doubt that the watch you posted a photo of is fake.

WHAT IF the second watch shop looks at it and says its genuine too? Should I be dismissive to the 2nd jeweler and the 1st, because someone (i.e. you guys) online say you know better (which y'all very well may, thats the whole reason i posted on here in the 1st place)? If y'all and the jewelers on complete polar opposites and I'm in the middle, what should i do? Believe complete strangers on tags forum or believe brick and mortar jewelers that specialize in swiss time pieces? (1st jeweler didn't specialize, just someone who's opinion I tend to believe, the 2nd place im taking it to later today is a primer swiss watch retailer/shop).