Cal. 11 Vintage Heuer Monaco (Reissue) Service

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Since you mentioned Watches of Switzerland, can we assume you're in the UK? @Snowydelrico (who got the wrong date wheel) and @imagwai are also in the UK. Could just be coincidence, or perhaps a trend showing that LVMH/TAG Heuer UK can be sloppy with their service.

Yep! In the UK. Seems to be a pattern emerging here....
 
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How do rotors wear?
If they can screw that up I’d be concerned about their ability to do more complex things, one technician to one watch surely not several in bits on the bench at one time, mistake corrected and refund needed here.

Like you, I'd hope there isn't one watchmaker working on multiple watches at the same time, so there are parts mixed up on the bench. I'm going to push for a completely new watch. They can have this back to do with as they please.
 
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A cal11 is just a sellita mounted in the ooposite direction, turn it around and put the crown on the right side and you have a c12. Both use the same dd chronograph module so I think it is possible to get the sellita movement base mixed up and attached to the chrono module.

But sure, parts could have just gotten mixed up after cleaning and the rotors could as well just have been mixed up.

Do you know if the movements have matching serial numbers to the cases?
 
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Do you know if the movements have matching serial numbers to the cases?
I doubt it, IIRC people have posted before that the "in house" H02 movements lack serial no , so then I'm thinking why would the third party movements have it 😀
 
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I doubt it, IIRC people have posted before that the "in house" H02 movements lack serial no , so then I'm thinking why would the third party movements have it 😀

It's just an ETA at the end of the day, so totally agree.
 
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Maybe they use the same setup as Tudor (and probably many others)? Movements coming in for service just go into a big pool of movements undergoing service, they service a big bunch and just put random movement back into the watch. They just ensure it is the correct calibre and runs like it should, not that you get the exact same movement. Perhaps the service center in this case just forgot to confirm the calibre before putting a movement into the watch in question
 
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Maybe they use the same setup as Tudor (and probably many others)? Movements coming in for service just go into a big pool of movements undergoing service, they service a big bunch and just put random movement back into the watch. They just ensure it is the correct calibre and runs like it should, not that you get the exact same movement. Perhaps the service center in this case just forgot to confirm the calibre before putting a movement into the watch in question

Blimey! Not sure I like this setup lol. So reconditioned units just keep getting recycled amongst serviced watches? Makes sense from an efficiency and profit point of view, but for the end user it loses the personal touch. I like to be treated as a unique individual, that's how they attempt to make you feel when selling the watch...
 
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Blimey! Not sure I like this setup lol. So reconditioned units just keep getting recycled amongst serviced watches? Makes sense from an efficiency and profit point of view, but for the end user it loses the personal touch. I like to be treated as a unique individual, that's how they attempt to make you feel when selling the watch...
I know what you mean 😁 Yeah you have to pay many times as much for a high end luxury timepiece to get the romantic Swiss watch luxury experience they all try to sell us in their marketing 🙄 when talking about massproduced factory made watches at the 5-15k price range we must remember that what we buy is industrialised made factory products that happen to look good and make us feel happy when on wrist, it is not true luxury, rather affordable luxury which means something else
 
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I know what you mean 😁 Yeah you have to pay many times as much for a high end luxury timepiece to get the romantic Swiss watch luxury experience they all try to sell us in their marketing 🙄 when talking about massproduced factory made watches at the 5-15k price range we must remember that what we buy is industrialised made factory products that happen to look good and make us feel happy when on wrist, it is not true luxury, rather affordable luxury which means something else

So, I am actually the peasant I always was, even with my watch collection? lol.

Yeah, totally get what you're saying. I just have this romantic notion in my head.

Still, I don't want my Frankensteins Monaco anymore lol.
 
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Get this mess sorted out, sell the mass produced stuff and get yourself a true luxury timepiece, then you'll be the baller you asprire to be 😉

Im sure this guy can give you some advice on what to buy

 
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I am sure brands like Lange & Söhne, Grönefeld and similar would give you the personal experience and never put someone else's shitty movement in your timepiece 😎
 
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Get this mess sorted out, sell the mass produced stuff and get yourself a true luxury timepiece, then you'll be the baller you asprire to be 😉

Im sure this guy can give you some advice on what to buy

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Ha ha! I might just scrape a half decent Patek if I sell all my collection. God Jim! You've brought me right down to earth, old chap lol.
 
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I am sure brands like Lange & Söhne, Grönefeld and similar would give you the personal experience and never put someone else's shitty movement in your timepiece 😎

😝
 
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A cal11 is just a sellita mounted in the ooposite direction, turn it around and put the crown on the right side and you have a c12. Both use the same dd chronograph module so I think it is possible to get the sellita movement base mixed up and attached to the chrono module.
While this is true, it does raise the question of whether a Calibre12 movement can just be reassembled with the Dubois Depraz chrono module flipped to fit within a C11 case. It depends on whether TAG Heuer designed the two movements to be easily interchangeable or whether they purposely designed the way the chrono fits onto the base movement to prevent a possible mix up. One might think it would be the former rather than the latter, but TAG has done some strange things in the past.
 
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Maybe they use the same setup as Tudor (and probably many others)? Movements coming in for service just go into a big pool of movements undergoing service, they service a big bunch and just put random movement back into the watch. They just ensure it is the correct calibre and runs like it should, not that you get the exact same movement. Perhaps the service center in this case just forgot to confirm the calibre before putting a movement into the watch in question
Surprising. I don't like the sound of this either. How do you know this is what Tudor does? Is it a reliable source or hearsay?
 
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Surprising. I don't like the sound of this either. How do you know this is what Tudor does? Is it a reliable source or hearsay?
Omega does it with the X-33 and Speedmaster reduced.
 
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Surprising. I don't like the sound of this either. How do you know this is what Tudor does? Is it a reliable source or hearsay?
I wish I could remember where I read this last time but it is something I have heard a couple of times. With Tudor you'll have to explicitly state that you want the exact same movement back in your watch and it will make the service time a lot longer.

I imagine this is quite common practice among cheaper massmarket brands like Tudor, TAG etc working with big volumes aiming to be efficient and cost effective
 
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Surprising. I don't like the sound of this either. How do you know this is what Tudor does? Is it a reliable source or hearsay?

From what I remember it was confined on the Rolex forum, although I have heard you can request your movement to be serviced, & not swapped out, but this has a longer servicing time

@Jim Dollares beat me to it 🤦
 
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With Tudor you'll have to explicitly state that you want the exact same movement back in your watch and it will make the service time a lot longer.
But this could only apply to non-COSC watches, right?