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Jim Dollares
·So this would also mean that everyone knows about this issue. If IWC and others know about it, why the hell is ETA and Sellita not doing something about it
Watchwinder question
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imagwai
·So this would also mean that everyone knows about this issue. If IWC and others know about it, why the hell is ETA and Sellita not doing something about it
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joecoulson
·I have had many a winder. I just recently got the Wolf double Roadster (2.7 module). it not only allows me to dial in each watch to their specific settings (the Oris goes 650 turns CW & CCW and the Tag 800 turns CW only) but more importantly it also has a power reserve delay setting which allows the watch to wind down through its reserve before the programming starts, this is also programmable so that you don’t get a dead watch when you go to wear it but you still get to lengthen the life of the main spring. I used cheap Winder‘s for a couple of years and although they worked OK, they were noisy and not programmable as above.
We all spend a lot of money on these watches, it makes sense that we would spend proportionately on the winders for them. my 2 C
We all spend a lot of money on these watches, it makes sense that we would spend proportionately on the winders for them. my 2 C
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Jim Dollares
·I'm noticing a similarity between this and my side convo with Jim - cheapness wrapped in a flashy expensive exterior, eh?
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abrod520
·So this would also mean that everyone knows about this issue. If IWC and others know about it, why the hell is ETA and Sellita not doing something about it
I think a big part of it is the new paradigm in watchmaking - IWC and Breitling et al. are just doing what they've always done - take ebauches and finish them to their specification. After all, the 2824 and 2893 are decades-old movement designs, and have been used extremely reliably throughout that time. (The Sellitas are newer, slightly lower-quality copies of those two designs)
Instead, it's the new breed of budget micros that are taking off-the-shelf Sellitas or low-grade ETAs and just plopping them into watches at low price points.... I'm guessing TAG saw this, thought they could do the same and offer better case/dial/hands finishing for more, and now have a reputation for problematic movements in the Cal 5.
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Jim Dollares
·What pisses me off is that every article and video you see the "journalist" is always going on about how these movements are good, reliable work horses. Why is no one covering what you are describing
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imagwai
·What pisses me off is that every article and video you see the "journalist" is always going on about how these movements are good, reliable work horses. Why is no one covering what you are describing
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abrod520
·What pisses me off is that every article and video you see the "journalist" is always going on about how these movements are good, reliable work horses. Why is no one covering what you are describing
Yep, remember it has more to do with the finishing than with the movement itself. So that's why a Black Bay ETA is highly desired compared to in-house etc. and which is why I'm glad to pay about $4k for an IWC or Breitling with one, but not a TAG. And I categorically don't do micros anymore, for many reasons but yes the movement is one.
Hell even the lower-end watches from the Swatch Group (who own ETA as you'll recall) aren't immune, my Mido is still doing it a little bit even after returning from an official service. Of course, the micros and the Mido all cost $1000 or less, which is why it's more forgivable than a $2800+ TAG :/
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Jim Dollares
·Yep, remember it has more to do with the finishing than with the movement itself. So that's why a Black Bay ETA is highly desired compared to in-house etc. and which is why I'm glad to pay about $4k for an IWC or Breitling with one, but not a TAG. And I categorically don't do micros anymore, for many reasons but yes the movement is one.
Hell even the lower-end watches from the Swatch Group (who own ETA as you'll recall) aren't immune, my Mido is still doing it a little bit even after returning from an official service. Of course, the micros and the Mido all cost $1000 or less, which is why it's more forgivable than a $2800+ TAG :/
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Pitfitter446
·Maybe you could put herself on a winder to see if that cures the chain saw affliction....
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Aquagraph
·So my Calibre 16 Carrera is still running, and since I only turned the crown 6 times I am guessing the watchwinder must have done something prior to me starting it, I doubt it would still be running off six turns and two hours of me wearing it on the sofa.
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abrod520
·So my Calibre 16 Carrera is still running, and since I only turned the crown 6 times I am guessing the watchwinder must have done something prior to me starting it, I doubt it would still be running off six turns and two hours of me wearing it on the sofa.
Never know, I have some automatics that will jump right to life the moment I pick them up after weeks in the drawer.
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Albert-AMG
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorI've been looking at the Boxy brand. This model: https://watchwinderworks.com.au/Category/BoxyBrickStandard. Are yours noisy, @Albert-AMG?
I have three of them: one twin and two single Boxy watchwinders
I’m very satisfied with these Boxy 👍
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Remo
·What I love about watchwinders ist that they must be the quintessence of the irrationality of watchcollecting:
Instead of using a quartz watch with a nice tiny battery, we are keen to buy automatic watches, because they don't need a battery, as we argue to justify the price premium. Only to put those automatic watches on watchwinders, which in turn need huge D size batteries! 😁
And yes, I am seriously considering acquiring such an absurdity.
Instead of using a quartz watch with a nice tiny battery, we are keen to buy automatic watches, because they don't need a battery, as we argue to justify the price premium. Only to put those automatic watches on watchwinders, which in turn need huge D size batteries! 😁
And yes, I am seriously considering acquiring such an absurdity.
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Jim Dollares
·Haha valid point Remo 😁
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Jim Dollares
·My opinion is that real men hand wind their watches 😉
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joecoulson
·My opinion is that real men hand wind their watches 😉
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Aquagraph
·What I love about watchwinders ist that they must be the quintessence of the irrationality of watchcollecting:
Instead of using a quartz watch with a nice tiny battery, we are keen to buy automatic watches, because they don't need a battery, as we argue to justify the price premium. Only to put those automatic watches on watchwinders, which in turn need huge D size batteries! 😁
And yes, I am seriously considering acquiring such an absurdity.
Prosecution rests.
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Albert-AMG
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorInstead of using a quartz watch with a nice tiny battery, we are keen to buy automatic watches, because they don't need a battery, as we argue to justify the price premium. Only to put those automatic watches on watchwinders, which in turn need huge D size batteries! 😁
Yes, in my case I must use 8 huge D size batteries because I keep the watchwinders in a closet that does not have a plug inside... for my peace of mind, and to avoid generating a waste of 8 huge batteries every 5 months, I just bought 8 rechargeable batteries and a charger! 😁
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