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·I am never going to like the word speed on the bezel. Wish they would stop doing that.
It seems to me that this will be a "base" model, that will be excellent for limited and special editions . . . lots of good ways to incorporate colors, etc. I thought it interesting that on the Red Bull SE there was no reference to Red Bull on the dial, but only "Oracle Red Bull" on the case-back. Easy to imagine them doing a Senna edition . . . just add some green and yellow, and maybe some red!!
I'm curious -- what are the choices in titanium chronographs at the $2,000 price point? I honestly don't know. I'm familiar with Tudor and Oris models in the $4K to $5K range, but are there any major Swiss brands hitting the $2,000 price point?
I'd actually prefer to see a Senna Edition of the rumored retro inspired 3 handers that are supposedly similar to the KITH collaboration from last year. I think a retro call back to Senna's era of TAG Heuer would be in keeping with such a watch, plus it should be more affordable. One can dream and hope... 🤞🙏
Looking around at other 7750 chronos still out there, these are competing with $2k microbrands - and this just isn't twice the watch. Step it up to the competitive set in the $5k range and you're looking at column-wheel chronos and in some cases flyback functionality. As I've said, this F1 is nice, but it can't compete with the more refined chronos it's priced against.
Are these $2k microbrand offerings in Titanium?
Also, I'm not sure if it's correct to compare TAG Heuer to the microbrands. Granted the Cal 16 is a run of the mill movement, but when looking at TAG's big name competitors, there aren't many that pop to mind that are Titanium Chronos in this price range.
Theres the Titanium IWC Mercedes-AMG F1 team Chrono, but that's $7500. The Tudor Pelagos FXD Chrono comes closest for me, but with a carbon composite case and price of $5450. Then there's the Longines Avigation BigEye Chrono, with a Titanium case and ETA movement. Arguably a better buy at $3850. But a completely different aesthetic, vintage retro vs. avant-garde racy. The Longines Spirit Flyback is priced similarly to TAG at $4850.
Are these $2k microbrand offerings in Titanium?
Also, I'm not sure if it's correct to compare TAG Heuer to the microbrands. Granted the Cal 16 is a run of the mill movement, but when looking at TAG's big name competitors, there aren't many that pop to mind that are Titanium Chronos in this price range.
Theres the Titanium IWC Mercedes-AMG F1 team Chrono, but that's $7500. The Tudor Pelagos FXD Chrono comes closest for me, but with a carbon composite case and price of $5450. Then there's the Longines Avigation BigEye Chrono, with a Titanium case and ETA movement. Arguably a better buy at $3850. But a completely different aesthetic, vintage retro vs. avant-garde racy. The Longines Spirit Flyback is priced similarly to TAG at $4850.
That was just from a quick Google search. Sure they're ugly, but you get the point.
The competitors at the same price point you list however, like the Tudors and Longines, offer column wheel chronographs not base-level 7750s like TAG and the microbrands.
To clarify too, I’m not saying the F1 should be $2k. It’s clearly nicer than the micros. But not two and a half times nicer.
$3750 and these would’ve been the watch release of the year.
Plenty. Farer, for instance, has these Ti models plus numerous steel options for even less using the same movement. They've even got a GMT chrono for the same price as these Ti.
That was just from a quick Google search. Sure they're ugly, but you get the point.
The competitors at the same price point you list however, like the Tudors and Longines, offer column wheel chronographs not base-level 7750s like TAG and the microbrands.
With all due respect to a respected collector -- To suggest that LIV and Farer are making watches that compete with TAG Heuer is a complete joke. How many of these brands (or similar microbrands) have you owned over the years? Your friends? How many have you seen in the metal? How's the look and feel and finish? Titanium chronographs from reliable Swiss brands can be priced exactly where TAG Heuer priced these new Formula 1 Chronographs.