Red Bull-TAG Heuer: F1 Sponsorship in 2016

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In the past there were complaints that the new generation engines are not loud enough. Will a "ticking engine be
accepted?
As long as it doesn't go boom when its done ticking like the 2015 Renault or Honda I'd say it'd be more than welcome lol
 
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As long as it doesn't go boom when its done ticking like the 2015 Renault or Honda I'd say it'd be more than welcome lol

I agree! Even a little progress is progress. So leg the
engines tick in 2016.
Good luck in the past and hopefully a good sign for next
year: None of my watches went boom. However they were
not manufactured by Renault or Honda....
 
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There are certainly some very strong pointers that it will be either Red Bull-TAG or Red Bull-TAG Heuer for next year. The first sounds better...and I think that to most people, the first "TAG" that they think of is TAG Heuer rather than confusing it with Techniques d'Avant Garde.
 
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Incidentally when they say "Swiss Engineering To Close The Gap" they're not just talking about TAG Heuer branding in the marketing sense, Mario Illien has been on Red Bull's payroll for a while now trying to work with Renault to improve their engine and is in fact a Swiss national himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Illien

Illien (former co-founder of Ilmore - now Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains) presented his design to Renault which they then ignored in favour of their own updated version which as Red Bull demonstrated in Interlagos was worse than the existing engine.

So its rather appropriate really that if it does become RedBull-TAG, it will in fact be a true Swiss engine design even if it shares some initial elements with the Renault.
 
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Incidentally when they say "Swiss Engineering To Close The Gap" they're not just talking about TAG Heuer branding in the marketing sense, Mario Illien has been on Red Bull's payroll for a while now trying to work with Renault to improve their engine and is in fact a Swiss national himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Illien

Illien (former co-founder of Ilmore - now Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains) presented his design to Renault which they then ignored in favour of their own updated version which as Red Bull demonstrated in Interlagos was worse than the existing engine.

So its rather appropriate really that if it does become RedBull-TAG, it will in fact be a true Swiss engine design even if it shares some initial elements with the Renault.

Correct.

Perhaps keep en eye on calibre11.com in say, 3 hours time 😉
 
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Correct.

Perhaps keep en eye on calibre11.com in say, 3 hours time 😉
I hate it when you know cool stuff I don't 😜
 
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It's Red Bull-TAG Heuer for 2016 and beyond...

http://www.calibre11.com/news-tag-heuer-powers-red-bull-racing-in-2016/
So it's going beyond 2016 too? Christian had mentioned this was an interim 2016 arrangement for now but at the same time they would be mad to go back to being a customer after the mess they've had dealing with the works teams this year, I wonder if the interim part is just in terms of it being Renault based this year and completely separate after that?

Ron Dennis was absolutely right about one thing, you're not going to win world championships as a customer in this engine formula, especially as a Renault customer.
 
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Red Bull Calibre 11 would also be a strong solution.

I like the way you're thinking Werner- but I might have to pass the hat around first
 
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So it's going beyond 2016 too? Christian had mentioned this was an interim 2016 arrangement for now but at the same time they would be mad to go back to being a customer after the mess they've had dealing with the works teams this year, I wonder if the interim part is just in terms of it being Renault based this year and completely separate after that?

Ron Dennis was absolutely right about one thing, you're not going to win world championships as a customer in this engine formula, especially as a Renault customer.

Here's where it gets interesting- TAG Heuer's deal is "multi-year" but the Renault deal with Red Bull is only for one year
 
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I like the way you're thinking Werner- but I might have to pass the hat around first

Hello David,
thanks for Your kind answer.
I hope that media will accept TAGHeuer aus the engine manufacturer. I remember that at the times of McLaren-TAG the engine, at least in Germany, was called "Porsche". Hope they have better luck this time, although everybody knows, so far it is made by Renault.
Let's see how things work!
 
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Not sure if this has been posted
the current chief executive [Jean-Claude Biver] and I fundamentally disagreed about some things.

“I didn't share his view on his radical approach to sponsorship, which I thought was inappropriate for our brand, let alone his.

“There was a particular moment in Monte Carlo that I didn't particularly feel was positive. Plus that thread was taut, and the numbers declined over a period of time.”

The “particular moment” Dennis alludes to is famous model Cara Delevingne making an appearance at the Monaco Grand Prix clad in a flashy pink racing suit, with football star Cristiano Ronaldo also part of the TAG Heuer sponsor event

http://en.f1i.com/news/36259-dennis-downplays-losing-tag-heuer-to-red-bull.html
 
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Red Bull Racing's Christmas card featuring Toto Wolff of Mercedes 😀

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The whole VW group putting in a car has been around for years.. will believe when I see them say it. And is it going to be a vw motor? I don't know if they have a enough time for that. You see what happened with Honda in there first year.
 
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