Monaco CAW211P (launched in October 2015) : only Sellita, never ETA.

Calibre 12 : ETA and Sellita, then only Sellita from end of 2015.

 

I think my calibre 12 linear second was ETA though. It was solid caseback though. So i never get to see the movement. Anyway its not mine anymore. Looking forward to own calibre11 in the future. Lets hope they dont discontinue that.

 

Yes, originally the Cal 11 / Cal 12 were ETA 2892 base. In recent years ETA (part of the Swatch Group) has begun to reduce the number of movements it provides to other companies. Instead, they focus on improving the capabilities of SG brands so that's why inexpensive Tissots, Midos and Certinas etc. all have 80-hour power reserves now

 

Ah interesting, thought the transition was closer to 2019 or so. Huh

 

Yes, sir @VirgileF is correct All CAW211P Monaco is Sellita (based on this article from sir DC @Calibre11)
https://www.calibre11.com/first-look-heuer-monaco-calibre-11-mcqueen-chronograph/

My one and only Calibre16 is from 2010 (probably ETA) 1st generation Aquaracer and is bulletproof reliable as it is My CAW211B is from 2010 as well. The Black McQueen Calibre12 is also pre-2015.

I guess TAG Heuer knows which watch movements get more quality issues through number of watches returned for repair. I hope they can be more transparent like the most/least scores in reliabilty in the car industry

 

I believe all of the C11's released around the time of the 40th Anniversary McQueen and shortly after (i.e. 2009-2012 CAW211A 40th Anniversary, CAW211B Grey, CAW211C Silver, CAW211D Blue w/ Silver stripes) were ETA.

But this trait of needing a little more motion to spin the Monaco's rotor I think can even apply to the ETA. I was once on a long 12 hour flight with my C12 ETA Monaco Gulf, it didn't stop on my wrist, but when I woke up the next morning it had stopped. Probably due to lack of enough motion on the long flight and left motionless overnight.

If you love the Monaco CAW211P, I wouldn't let this behavior deter you from buying one. To me, it's a non issue, as long as you keep your wrist active or hand wind it up when first putting it on from a zero power reserve starting point.

 

Like my cheapy Hamilton khaki field. Great watch!

 

Amen

 

Nice for an... automatic watch

Exclusive to Tag Heuer only

 

How do you guys know this stuff?

 

Can you make this your avatar please?

 

I know a few people at Tag Heuer. Jean Claude Biver invited me in 2015 to visit all the factories (the headquarters, museum, factory, foundry, dial factory, movements in Chenevez etc) and Guy Semon invited me to visit the factories again in 2019.

 

Oh I remember that you visited all the factories, but even so... I guess if that was something you were particularly interested to ask you would remember.

 

I got my Monaco CAW211P in December (straight from the factory, so very recent production). I too have noticed that the rotor does not spin very freely, but I’ve not had it die on my wrist so far. Giving it an occasional hand wind should be fine. It’s running +1 second a day, so I’m happy overall.

The Heuer 02 in my Autavia though…that thing is like a Fidget Spinner crossed with a helicopter rotor blade!

 

Back on topic, the panda looks pretty good on a bracelet. Didn't know this was an option.

 

The silver Autavia Chrono is my favorite. But it closely resembles my JH85 Autavia so at the moment, it already makes me happy & content

 

Great combo to put it on a bracelet!

 

I'd either forgotten or never seen that Bamford, it looks good! That and the siffert are the pick of that generation Autavia. I see the demise of that Autavia as a real shame, it had potential to be a speedy rival