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·I generally prefer black as well, but I have too many black dials in my collection. So silver is perfect for me; just really wish it was a panda and don't mind waiting two years if a heritage panda is coming.
Heuer 160th Anniversary/ Carrera 160 Years Silver Edition CBK221B
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imagwai
·I say balls to all three. Why limit the choice to one, two or three? Have em all and choose which one you like best. Can never tell until it is on the wrist 👍
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THJunkie
·Now you're talking. This is the way it should be going anyway tbh. I can configure my Ray Bans exactly how I want them, my car in an online configurator, and can now even customise my golf clubs direct from the manufacturer, right down to the paint job. Why can't I choose the colour of dial on my watch? 😀 Yes, I know there's Bamford, but it comes at quite a premium and isn't quite the same.
Bamford to me is an expensive equivalent of furry dice on a 106. I know that’s probably disrespectful of the craftsmanship - but most of their options are gaudy and well, simply not HH/TH. I’d much rather walk into a boutique, try on a few combos maybe play around with a configurator and then say, ok make me that one. Dial and hands customised, maybe a case option or three, (steel, ceramic or pm), and a selection of straps. Buy a mass made option for usual price. Get a customised version for say 25% to 30% more. Since most of their ‘stock’ watches sell at well under RRP, then it would be one way to help mitigate the resale value. Surely if they are made from parts ‘bins’ anyway in the factory then it would not be that hard to manage as a process. Surely It is much harder to ‘haggle’ a price for something custom than for a generic sold in every AD in the land? Basically extend the connected ecosystem model to the non smart range. Add in a clever switch out system for straps (ok might not work for the heritage line so easily) and quids in! People will spend all the discount on add ons anyway to add a bit of variety. If Rolex can do it then why not?
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Mr_Orange
·We'll see what happens, but TAG's got a history of starting down a very promising road only to change their minds at the last second....
I think this is down the fairly frequent change in CEO that TAG Heuer have had over the last 10 years. There hasn't really been any stability in the leadership.
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kappa_md
·After the 160 Carrera, I’d also loved to get a classic Carrera design on black dial but somehow the Fragment Carrera tells me otherwise. Great Re-edition but I’m hesitating to pull the trigger 🙄
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·I think this is down the fairly frequent change in CEO that TAG Heuer have had over the last 10 years. There hasn't really been any stability in the leadership.
like a football (soccer for the non Brits) club. If you keep changing the leadership after one bad season then there's little chance of consistency and allowing the squad/brand to flourish. But also similarly you need to hire the proper talent in the first place, back the vision at board level, invest properly, cut the deadwood and give the vision more than two seasons to reach the top. Have a vision > plan to implement > and the courage to see it through before panicking and changing course in the hope more change will fast track the fix. Same is true of all ventures from watchmaking to tech startups and sports clubs. And where there is human emotion and tradition involves it is even harder to shift perception and re-build the brand/success/results.
He’d do well to look at how Apple evolved and changed in the period after Job’s return. From near bankruptcy to to top of the game in under 10 years. TH simply need to decide what they want to be whilst at the same time not completely forgetting who they are.
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Mspeedster
·By @heuer_club on instagram.
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Shockingly bad photos in most of that article - the lighting just completely washed out the silver sunburst effect. The last photo you put up there looks great though!
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorOne of the comments in the Hodinkee article, referred to the H02 as the "fat boy". You can understand why, when comparing them side-by-side. Here I placed resized photos with roughly the same dial diameter, to illustrate how the proportions differ.
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Mspeedster
·One of the comments in the Hodinkee article, referred to the H02 as the "fat boy". You can understand why, when comparing them side-by-side. Here I placed resized photos with roughly the same dial diameter, to illustrate how the proportions differ.
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorI felt they were referring to the thickness rather than the diameter. Or is there something else on the watch that you think is "fat"?
The lugs should be a bit straighter and a more elongated.
And then there the glassbox, which takes away excessive visibility from the dial, even when looking straight at it.
Here's what the Skipper could have looked like, with slightly elongated lugs and without the glassbox ring.
Here's another example; here are the originals.
And here's what the dials could have looked without the glassbox ring.
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kappa_md
·Will the Carrera Silver 160 & the Carrera Fragment have the same thickness and overall case dimension since both uses the same Calibre Heuer 02 movement?
The dial for me is the MOST important factor for the Carrera Silver 160 bringing it to a very clean and inspiring look vs the Carrera Fragment which is quite busy & hippy in my honest observation.
The dial for me is the MOST important factor for the Carrera Silver 160 bringing it to a very clean and inspiring look vs the Carrera Fragment which is quite busy & hippy in my honest observation.
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorWill the Carrera Silver 160 & the Carrera Fragment have the same thickness and overall case dimension since both uses the same Calibre Heuer 02 movement?
The dial for me is the MOST important factor for the Carrera Silver 160 bringing it to a very clean and inspiring look vs the CarreraFragment which is quite busy & hippy in my honest observation.
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kappa_md
·To be quite honest about it, although I know several others may not agree with me, I like the design of Carrera 160 vs the Heuer Carrera 2447S. To me it speaks clearly more of what the Carrera means, crisp, clear, & clean design.
It might have taken a somewhat different approach to a modern intepretation & not just an exact copy, the Carrera 160 still shows it is grounded in the past & a direction towards the horizon. This makes it for me, a very “timeless” design. Homage to the past & avant-garde for the future. 👍 And probably the reason why alot of expectations & anticipation running around 😗
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorTo be quite honest about it, although I know several others may not agree with me, I like the design of Carrera 160 vs the Heuer Carrera 2447S. To me it speaks clearly more of what the Carrera means, crisp, clear, & clean design.
It might have taken a somewhat different approach to a modern intepretation & not just an exact copy, the Carrera 160 still shows it is grounded in the past & a direction towards the horizon. This makes it for me, a very “timeless” design. Homage to the past & avant-garde for the future. 👍 And probably the reason why alot of expectations & anticipation running around 😗
However, what drives mad is when an original design is degraded, instead of improving it.
If you look at the perfect proportions of the 2447s original (below), you can see that re-edition looks bloated, softened, and lost its masculine edge.
But what I loathe the most, is that obscene glassbox. 🤬
The crystal on the original (below) is unobtrusive. Whereas on the new ^ one, it's all you see!
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Mspeedster
·If you look at the perfect proportions of the 2447s original (below), you can see that re-edition looks bloated, softened, and lost its masculine edge.
But what I loathe the most, is that obscene glassbox. 🤬
I suppose TH could use plexi instead of sapphire. Although less scratch resistant, it would certainly provide vintage charm and eliminate the issue.
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Hubert
··TAG Heuer Forums ModeratorI had to stare long and hard at the 160 vs. 2447S to see what you mean. I wouldn't have thought the proportions to be "bloated" until you called it out.
If you really loathe it that much, why do you keep buying Carreras with the glassbox? If I'm not mistaken, the 160 will be your third. LOL. 🤨
I suppose TH could use plexi instead of sapphire. Although less scratch resistant, it would certainly provide vintage charm and eliminate the issue.
They can keep doing them in sapphire, just a less arched dome like what they had before the glassbox was introduced with the Telemeter.