2025 Carrera Chronosprint x Porsche Rallye CBS2015.EB0381 & CBS2041.EB0382

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To be honest I think for me that TH has reached its price limit and I won’t be buying any more, they seem to release various new options of older models and stick the price up, Customer loyalty has a limit.
 
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I’d say when the only single nit pick that I have with a watch is how they secured the bracelet links, it says a lot. It’s not taking a single thing away from the quality. Mind you, pin and collar doesn’t weaken it, it’s just a pain to size without the right tools. The micro adjustment would had been great, but then people would complain about the larger clasp. If it really bothered me that much, It would live on the incredibly comfortable included rally straps on deployment with infinite sizing.

Value is subjective. Every hand in this watch is aligned. The accuracy is around +1 second per day. The modified movement is really cool to watch in action. Every detail of this watch is so well thought out. BUT, it comes with a premium price tag that not everybody will be on board with. To me it’s been worth every penny.

In comparison, I HATE the Omega Micro adjustments. When you extend it out, there is a visible gap between the link and the clasp, it’s uncomfortable when it digs in your wrist, and it doesn’t look good. You know how many high end Chronographs I’ve purchased with the chrono hand misaligned? I had 2 Omegas that had hour hands misaligned. Every brand has something.
If you really look into details, it's not just pins or screws.
Your accuracy may be good for the moment (and for your watch), but this watch isn't even COSC certified.
The indexes and hands are rhodium- or gold-plated; those are not solid gold. Rolex has solid gold for indexes and hands even on the OP that is half the price.

But you're right on one point: value is subjective. Maybe this is the perfect watch for you and this is great.
For me, the specs are not aligned with the price and I can find much better price/quality ratio elsewhere.
 
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The marketing connection of this watch is to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Porsche 911's 1965 debut at the Monte Carlo Rally. Where it finished 2nd in its class, with the help of Heuer timers on its dashboard.


Can someone explain to me why TAG Heuer's website is celebrating the Porsche 911s 'victory'? 2nd in it's class and 5th overall doesn't constitute a victory, no matter how good a result it might have been.
 
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Can someone explain to me why TAG Heuer's website is celebrating the Porsche 911s 'victory'? 2nd in it's class and 5th overall doesn't constitute a victory, no matter how good a result it might have been.
Finishing is a victory!
 
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That's about as good an explanation as I'm gonna get...
 
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This was the 911's competition debut, so finishing 2nd is a pretty great result
 
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This was the 911's competition debut, so finishing 2nd is a pretty great result
Agreed. I would be fairly happy just to finish the Monte Carlo rally
 
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I'm also slightly bemused that a Mini won the race, but the Porsche came second in it's class.... so the Mini was in a higher class than a 911?
 
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I believe whoever wrote "Victory" on the website made a mistake in that one section. There are many mistakes on TH's website, like when they described the case of the new DLC black coated Red F1 Chrono as "sand blasted Titanium".

In this video, TAG correctly states 2nd in its class and 5th overall.
Also, the Monte Carlo Rallye is a twisty hill climb, it was raining and snowing in 1965. Not surprising under such conditions for a Mini Cooper S to win the race. The second place overall Porsche 904 Carrera GTS was basically a racecar in road form and the Mini beat it too.
 
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I'm also slightly bemused that a Mini won the race, but the Porsche came second in it's class.... so the Mini was in a higher class than a 911?
Overall win is irrespective of class. ‘Higher’ is not really how to think about it. ‘More expensive’ ‘more powerful’ ‘more modified’ are typical distinctions.
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So the Mini was more powerful, more modified, more expensive? 🤔
 
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A vehicle from a cheaper class can beat a more expensive one. I’m too lazy to look up the specs but you could look at the fia historic database and check the homologation forms.
 
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I'm not that interested. Just seems a bit strange that a Mini beats a Porsche in a straight fight. Like at Le Mans you have different classes but they generally know which class is going to win, don't they? Barring crashes...
 
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Today yes, the big power 4wd classes would definitely take over the ‘lower’ classes. Back then, if conditions were bad, it probably wouldn’t be totally crazy for lightweight fwd to beat more powerful rwd.
 
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Today yes, the big power 4wd classes would definitely take over the ‘lower’ classes. Back then, if conditions were bad, it probably wouldn’t be totally crazy for lightweight fwd to beat more powerful rwd.
This. The Mini is a tiny little lightweight thing, and in certain conditions - and especially considering the quality of tires at the time - this means the difference. In fact, Porsche built their entire reputation winning races with this formula, plus the extra advantage of rear-engines.
 
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This is why I have this in the shed. Many Porsche owners get nervous when they see me in their mirror.🤣
 
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This is why I have this in the shed. Many Porsche owners get nervous when they see me in their mirror.🤣
One of the best cars I ever owned. Wish I still had it.
 
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One of the best cars I ever owned. Wish I still had it.
Indeed. Old School car driving. I love the supercharger! My girlfriend just won't let me call it 'pocket rocket' anymore.
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