2020 TAG Heuer Carrera Sports Chronograph

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is that the new H02 Monaco?

Yes.

Not sure i’m a fan of that extra running seconds floating seconds hand.

Which is why I brought it up in response to your comment about what's to come...
 
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Which is why I brought it up in response to your comment about what's to come...

i’d not seen those in detail.
 
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Probably not unless you're into these half-assed vestigial running seconds hands they're doing now. Some may like it and that's fine, but for me they will ruin an otherwise well-designed watch.

If true this is a bummer for me.
 
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I can't help but feel that some other brands are doing TAG Heuer better than TAG Heuer


I've been thinking about chronographs from the last few years that have black dials and black subdials similar to the new 44mm Carrera with those colors. I recall four watches, as shown below. I think the 44mm Carrera is the best looking one of the bunch. Its hands and hour markers are the best.

A close second would be the Bell & Ross BR-V2-94, which is 41mm and well proportioned. Screw-down pushers always look badass.

By far the most disappointing one is the Jaeger Lecoultre model. The shape of the hands and hour indices look clumsy, and the font for the 12 and 6 looks like Comic Sans.


 
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I've been thinking about chronographs from the last few years that have black dials and black subdials similar to the new 44mm Carrera with those colors. I recall four watches, as shown below. I think the 44mm Carrera is the best looking one of the bunch. Its hands and hour markers are the best.

A close second would be the Bell & Ross BR-V2-94, which is 41mm and well proportioned. Screw-down pushers always look badass.

By far the most disappointing one is the Jaeger Lecoultre model. The shape of the hands and hour indices look clumsy, and the font for the 12 and 6 looks like Comic Sans.



There’s very little difference between the two on the right. Aesthetically very similar. I’ve not seen the new TH in person, but will reserve judgement on the finish.

personally I’m not a big fan of an all black dial on a chrono, too much going on and too little contrast. But I agree that the Tag and Omaga are the best looking of the bunch. Aesthetically TH have a done a great job. The bracelet on the Omega is much more elegant though. Stands out from all those other.

i wonder what a white dial/black subdail TH Might look like?
 
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I've been thinking about chronographs from the last few years that have black dials and black subdials similar to the new 44mm Carrera with those colors. I recall four watches, as shown below. I think the 44mm Carrera is the best looking one of the bunch. Its hands and hour markers are the best.

A close second would be the Bell & Ross BR-V2-94, which is 41mm and well proportioned. Screw-down pushers always look badass.

By far the most disappointing one is the Jaeger Lecoultre model. The shape of the hands and hour indices look clumsy, and the font for the 12 and 6 looks like Comic Sans.


There are certainly things I would change about it, including those numbers and the pushers, but if I could have any of those 4, it would be the JLC! 😀
 
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There are certainly things I would change about it, including those numbers and the pushers, but if I could have any of those 4, it would be the JLC! 😀

to be fair it retails for nearly 2.5x the Tag. I think the Tag looks better though. Apart from the markers being a bit too big for such a ‘cramped’ dial. Those markers are bigger than those on a Planet Ocean! And that’s saying something! When you think that the Speedy Racing has gone up from £6k to £7k in the last 18 months. For exactly the same watch!!!! Then the new Tag is good value.
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Very high is meant to be the Heuer02T in the current range. Or the Monaco V4 and the mikrogirder in the past etc. So I did another correction in the chart there and removed the X from the current Monaco line , cause the V4 is not in the current collection.
Is the Calibre 17 of the Monza considered just a 'medium' quality movement?
 
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After seeing the images of this new Carrera Sports Chronograph for several days... I’m sorry but I am not convinced 🤔
It doesn't seem ugly to me, but I find it mild and impersonal, and not "Avantgarde". I liked the design of the previous Carrera Heuer 01 non-skeleton much better, which I find much more personal, forceful, and modern.


Now I see that the 2020 Connected (pictures below) is inspired by this new Carrera Sports Chronograph (although curiously the connected version was launched before than the mechanical watch) and for the same reasons I also prefer the design of the previous Connected generation

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@Albert-AMG I posted recently (int hsi thread I think) that an automatic along the lines of the new connect case and pusher design would look fantastic I think. I agree the new ones are not avant-garde at all. They are subtle tweaks to age old designs.
 
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@Albert-AMG I posted recently (int hsi thread I think) that an automatic along the lines of the new connect case and pusher design would look fantastic I think. I agree the new ones are not avant-garde at all. They are subtle tweaks to age old designs.
The 1st (2015) and 2nd (2017) generations of the TH Carrera Connected were sharing design with the 2015 Carrera 45mm Heuer 01/02/02T, while 3rd (2020) generation of the Connected is clearly inspired in this new Carrera Sports Chronograph, being the more modern pushers the main difference... but in fact they look very similar in everything else
 
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There are certainly things I would change about it, including those numbers and the pushers, but if I could have any of those 4, it would be the JLC! 😀

Same, JLC all the way.
 
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Probably not unless you're into these half-assed vestigial running seconds hands they're doing now. Some may like it and that's fine, but for me they will ruin an otherwise well-designed watch.


Wow, you really don't like the running seconds do you?

I find it to be a subtle implementation compared with some offerings.
 
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Wow, you really don't like the running seconds do you?

I find it to be a subtle implementation compared with some offerings.

Can't stand it. A two-register chronograph without a running seconds is a lovely thing; a 3-register chronograph is a lovely thing. Trying to do both with a weird in-between just messes it all up.
 
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Though I actually had this one in mind.

Ah, with black rings. You know, the Speedmaster 9300s aren't too much more expensive than these Carreras, on the secondary market. They also wear a bit smaller than the 44.25mm on-paper dimensions. Worth a look if you're into it
 
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Is the Calibre 17 of the Monza considered just a 'medium' quality movement?
Well, hmm, I have put it there, because it's not an inhouse movement. But of course it's harsh to put it in one basket with the quartz movements. Maybe the categories should be a bit more differentiated and labelled different, e.g. standard, high, high inhouse, haute horlogerie...
 
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Ah, with black rings. You know, the Speedmaster 9300s aren't too much more expensive than these Carreras, on the secondary market. They also wear a bit smaller than the 44.25mm on-paper dimensions. Worth a look if you're into it
Those are mine btw. So I’m sorted 😁