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  1. kbeck58

    kbeck58 Aug 21, 2022

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    I said it holds close but it is not in C.O.S.C spec anymore. It runs slow. Complex mechanical watches need maintenance at some point. In this case 13 years is a pretty long time without at least a inspection. I really don't want to wait for it to break before I do something. Parts wear and possibly need to replaced. Cleaning and lubrication need to be done. I probably will have a inspection done before I commit to the complete service expense.
     
  2. Pitfitter446

    Pitfitter446 Aug 21, 2022

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    You are correct, I’ve just had my functioning? hifi amp serviced, I hadn’t really noticed the performance drop but now it’s back, Wow, and, I wouldn’t not service my car even at low mileage. Cost split over 13years, fine.
     
  3. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Sep 27, 2022

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    BUMP. Show me your beautiful Grand Carreras dammit!
     
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  4. Jemagloh

    Jemagloh Sep 28, 2022

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    On the wrist again today.

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  5. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Sep 28, 2022

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    Good man you are! Lovely.
     
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  6. thingziliketoo

    thingziliketoo Sep 28, 2022

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  7. kbeck58

    kbeck58 Oct 2, 2022

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    Curious anybody know about how many years the Grand Carrera calibre 17 RS was made?
     
  8. VirgileF

    VirgileF Oct 2, 2022

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    I bought the first Grand Carrera Calibre 17 in Paris (France), the 19th November 2007 ;)
     
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  9. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Oct 2, 2022

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  10. VirgileF

    VirgileF Oct 2, 2022

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  11. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Oct 3, 2022

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    Yeah Rob, you gon need to make some fucking updates to that history post huh :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 3, 2022

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    I can only go by what the catalogues say, it's quite possible the catalogues were released in 2007 but were dated 2008. At the end of the day, I don't really understand why people need to know to the month when watches came out... and to be honest how do you define an end date? Watches can take years to fully disappear from the stores. I saw a brand new GC chrono for sale in Switzerland in 2018!
     
  13. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Oct 3, 2022

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    If you recall, that's actually how TAG Heuer themselves got the anniversary date wrong for the Carrera.

    When celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Carrera in 2004, they thought the original release date was 1964 because that's when it first appeared in a catalogue. However, by the time the 50th anniversary came around in 2013, they had learned that the Carrera was actually released in 1963, not 1964.

    The catalogues are a great source of information, but not always exact when trying to date a watch's release or discontinuation.
     
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  14. VirgileF

    VirgileF Oct 3, 2022

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    I see nothing wrong with (asking) a question ;)
     
  15. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 3, 2022

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    No, for sure... but really if it was December 2007 or Jan 2008 does it really make any difference? It's such an inexact thing anyway, look at the Solargraph, it was announced in April (IIRC) and it's still not actually available. Looking back in ten years time people will cite news items showing it was announced in April and due in September, but it's actually October now and it's not available. See what I mean? Also TAGs catalogues change from single years to crossing two years, and then some of the older catalogues have watches in them that say 'not available in this country'... and lets not forget, the GMT Aquaracer was available in Sweden and Germany for two months before the UK and elsewhere. Trying to pin everything down to exact dates is a fools errand.
     
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  16. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 3, 2022

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    You might also note that the Grand Carrera was the first History of post that I did, and I quickly realised after that that the catalogues were not trustworthy with regard to the fact that if something wasn't in a catalogue that meant it had been discontinued. This is one of the biggest problems I've had with all this since the catalogue might show one model on a strap and one on a bracelet, but were they both available on either right away? Maybe, maybe not. Plus there are instances where watches are not in a catalogue but are in catalogues before and after, so all it really means is they weren't shown in the catalogue that year... if you look at the catalogues from the end of the 10s you'd be forgiven for thinking there were only about 5 women's watches available, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case!
     
  17. VirgileF

    VirgileF Oct 3, 2022

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    All I understand is that a user has asked a question. And therefore expects the most accurate answer possible.

    Importance or not is a subjective thing.

    This is just my opinion ;)
     
  18. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 3, 2022

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    Good luck with that. I've done my best. As much as I try to be on top of everything that comes out I am still coming across watches that came out 3 years ago, how we can speak with absolute certainty about things that happened 20-30 years ago (in some cases pre internet!)
     
  19. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 3, 2022

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    As far as discontinuation goes they are pretty much useless, though I guess you can say a 'range' has gone within a 12-18 month period.

    I still find it hilariously amateurish that they did not know when the anniversary was. Surely someone knew, or knew someone who knew? It's not like they were talking about something that happened in 1860....
     
  20. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Oct 5, 2022

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    Well, the whole world got the date of the new millennium wrong....