Monaco Singapore GP Edition CAW2116

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Hi all. Forum newbie here and an owner of 3 Monacos - going towards my 4th one.

I came across the Monaco Singapore GP Edition CAW2116 and upon searching, there are absolutely no references coming for this model.

There is a Monaco CAW2117, which has been acknowledged as the Singapore GP Edition on calibre11.com and tagheuerenthusiast.blogspot.com.

From a basic understanding, it seems that Tag Heuer came up with 2x model numbers of the same watch - CAW2116 (LE of 100 pieces, individually numbered) and CAW2117 (LE of 400 pieces, non-numbered). Both watches have an identical watch face. I wanted to check with everyone whether this is correct or not?

Attaching photos of the caseback to show how I came to the conclusion.
 
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Wow, looks like you are right! I will amend my records on T.H.E. Blogspot.
 
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Wow, looks like you are right! I will amend my records on T.H.E. Blogspot.

I'm getting the CAW116 collected tomorrow, and will get it in hand later in the year. I can share some more pics of it
 
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I'm getting the CAW116 collected tomorrow, and will get it in hand later in the year. I can share some more pics of it
Do you have any pics of the two dials? I wonder if there's any other difference between the CAW2116 vs 2117 or if it's just one being numbered and the other not.
 
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Do you have any pics of the two dials? I wonder if there's any other difference between the CAW2116 vs 2117 or if it's just one being numbered and the other not.

I don't have the CAW2116 in hand, so just getting the only image that's available for it (apparently it was sold by a watch shop in Singapore in 2020 - the one with the watermark). The photo for the CAW2117 is from a present listing on ebay.
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I don't have the CAW2116 in hand, so just getting the only image that's available for it (apparently it was sold by a watch shop in Singapore in 2020 - the one with the watermark). The photo for the CAW2117 is from a present listing on ebay.
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Based on those two pics, one has green stitching on the strap the other white stitching. But the question is whether the white stitch strap is original or a replacement.
 
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I noticed that when I looked but it seems they are both coming up with white or green straps. My guess is the white is replacement, I bet you can't get a green stitched replacement, just like you can't get a blue stitched replacement for the UK LE Grand Carrera.
Nasty chip in the corner of the glass on the bottom one too.
 
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Yes but it seems odd that TAG would make the exact same watch, one numbered and one not. Like did they start with the numbered version and then randomly decide to make more? Wouldn't surprise me if that's what happened, but wondering if there's more to it than that.
 
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Isn't there a precedent for this? There's two of the McLaren SEL chronographs, some with signatures on the back some without... I forget exactly.
 
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Yes but it seems odd that TAG would make the exact same watch, one numbered and one not. Like did they start with the numbered version and then randomly decide to make more?
In fact they did the same with the digital Micrograph (CS111B) numbered Limited Edition (999 pcs), and then they decide to make more, calling it Microtimer (CS111C), not limited

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Did you know, in 2009 the Microtimer on the rubber strap was just under $2000. The reverse display Microtimer with an alligator strap was just over $2000 and the black display on fabric with diamonds on the case was almost $7000!
 
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Well I thought it said black display with the diamonds, maybe not. Doesn't look like a whole lot of diamonds for $5000 does it?
 
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Well I thought it said black display with the diamonds, maybe not. Doesn't look like a whole lot of diamonds for $5000 does it?
Probably real diamonds tho, not the fakey lab grown kind
 
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Yes but it seems odd that TAG would make the exact same watch, one numbered and one not. Like did they start with the numbered version and then randomly decide to make more? Wouldn't surprise me if that's what happened, but wondering if there's more to it than that.
There's another example of this - the Monaco Python CW2114. This watch was made as a regular production (although a bit hard to find), then the same model was made as an "Italy" numbered, limited edition of 230. I found this the hard way - after I bought my non-numbered one. In this case, even the model number is the same (CW2114). Pics attached for reference - first being the Italy limited edition.
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There's another example of this - the Monaco Python CW2114. This watch was made as a regular production (although a bit hard to find), then the same model was made as an "Italy" numbered, limited edition of 230. I found this the hard way - after I bought my non-numbered one. In this case, even the model number is the same (CW2114). Pics attached for reference - first being the Italy limited edition.
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Yes but at least this one has "ITALY" on the caseback making it a little different. Still wondering if there's something else on the numbered Singapore Monaco that makes it slightly different from the non-numbered Singapore Monaco.
 
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Yes but at least this one has "ITALY" on the caseback making it a little different. Still wondering if there's something else on the numbered Singapore Monaco that makes it slightly different from the non-numbered Singapore Monaco.
The Singapore LE has "Singapore Limited Edition" on the back along with the number. Personally I like the ITALY and the watch number placement. Balances the watch back very nicely
 
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The Singapore LE has "Singapore Limited Edition" on the back along with the number. Personally I like the ITALY and the watch number placement. Balances the watch back very nicely
Then maybe the other one isn't a Singapore Monaco, but just a 400 LE run that looks like it? (Similar to your Python example?)
 
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Then maybe the other one isn't a Singapore Monaco, but just a 400 LE run that looks like it? (Similar to your Python example?)
Not sure, but there's also a history of Tag bringing out LEs without any marking on the watch. E.g. CAW211E Japan special edition (of 100 pieces), green dial. The dial and the watch back don't have any marking of the limited edition. Although in that case, you get a special green colour Heuer box with Japan special edition written on it
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Not sure, but there's also a history of Tag bringing out LEs without any marking on the watch. E.g. CAW211E Japan special edition (of 100 pieces), green dial. The dial and the watch back don't have any marking of the limited edition. Although in that case, you get a special green colour Heuer box with Japan special edition written on it
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Yes I know. I was half joking by the way, with my comment about the other one maybe not being a Singapore edition.

But who knows, hard to figure some of these things out when it's in the past. Especially since Calibre11.com is no longer accessible, but even DC could sometimes miss something.
 
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