Heads-up- Sinn Dark Star Bund is now Available

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I'm looking forward to the pics!
UPS update. Monday. Ugh.
 
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Ara Ara
UPS update. Monday. Ugh.
Hope it doesn't go back to Kentucky or Japan. Joke, sorry - I actually feel for you, seeing it bounce all over. I know what it's like to be anxiously waiting for something like that. Looking forward to some pics too!
 
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Thanks David, I am still regretting not having bought the Sinn 155 Manufactum for 990 EUR in 2008. If I remember correctly they did not sell very well and were available for two or three years.

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Sinn may well view it as a "partnership"...but Jack Heuer certainly doesn't. I made the mistake of asking him once about the Sinn Bund watches...the polite version is that he felt that Sinn had "stolen" his watches, because even though they were sold to the army as Heuers, the service contract belonged to Sinn. And when those watches came in for a service, Mr. Sinn helpfully replaced the old Heuer dial...with a new Sinn dial.
In 2012 Helmut Sinn sold a couple of watches from his private collection, includindg two or three Heuer Bund in excellent condition. I was lucky enough to get one of them. The funny thing is that is was equipped wih a NOS Heuer Dial instead a Sinn one. He sold the original Heuer Tritium 3H dial to me, too.
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Hah that is terrible! At least with the 903 Helmut payed for stealing a design from Breitling 🙄
Stealing? This is an interesting theory. I always thought that the 903 is a direct successor to the vintage Navitimers as Sinn was one of the companies that was one of the companies that acquired parts of the Breitling name, designs and/or parts when Breitling was liquidated in 1979?

BTW, another company that was once owned by Helmut Sinn is offering a watch with a design heavily inspired (or stolen? 😉) from the Heuer Bund: Guinand Starfighter Pilot Chronograph.

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Hope it doesn't go back to Kentucky or Japan. Joke, sorry - I actually feel for you, seeing it bounce all over. I know what it's like to be anxiously waiting for something like that. Looking forward to some pics too!
Guess what! They sent it off to Albuquerque, NM. Apparently only the import fee was showing up at my nearby location. It was hanging out in Louisville by way of the Milky Way galaxy for the entire day yesterday.

Oh well. See ya Monday.
 
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Guess what! They sent it off to Albuquerque, NM. Apparently only the import fee was showing up at my nearby location. It was hanging out in Louisville by way of the Milky Way galaxy for the entire day yesterday.

Oh well. See ya Monday.
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Really hope you do get it on Monday.
 
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Thanks David, I am still regretting not having bought the Sinn 155 Manufactum for 990 EUR in 2008. If I remember correctly they did not sell very well and were available for two or three years.


In 2012 Helmut Sinn sold a couple of watches from his private collection, includindg two or three Heuer Bund in excellent condition. I was lucky enough to get one of them. The funny thing is that is was equipped wih a NOS Heuer Dial instead a Sinn one. He sold the original Heuer Tritium 3H dial to me, too.

Stealing? This is an interesting theory. I always thought that the 903 is a direct successor to the vintage Navitimers as Sinn was one of the companies that was one of the companies that acquired parts of the Breitling name, designs and/or parts when Breitling was liquidated in 1979?

BTW, another company that was once owned by Helmut Sinn is offering a watch with a design heavily inspired (or stolen? 😉) from the Heuer Bund: Guinand Starfighter Pilot Chronograph.

Greg
Interesting, that Guinand Starfighter really does look like the Heuer. So speaking of the "original", how about some pics of your Heuer Bund?
 
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Here you are! Unfortunately just an extract from my archive, as I sold the watch in the meantime. (Stupid decision, I know)
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But I kept the original dial:

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Stealing? This is an interesting theory. I always thought that the 903 is a direct successor to the vintage Navitimers as Sinn was one of the companies that was one of the companies that acquired parts of the Breitling name, designs and/or parts when Breitling was liquidated in 1979?
I was just making a joke, you are of course correct that they bought it which is why I wrote paying for stealing it
 
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As we're on the topic of vintage inspired pilot watches of similar design (who's borrowing from who?), I just happened to notice this beauty...

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https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...chronograph-limited-edition-live-pics-pricing

It's another LE, but the price is way to high for me.
 
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Yes, what a beauty. But not to forget the Zenith Chronometro Tipo CP 2, which is a re-edition of the Cairelli Chronograph.

Concerning military watches there is at least another connection between Heuer and Sinn albeit not a direct one: As @Calibre11 pointed out in the Ultimate Guide to the Heuer Pasadena:
Just a glance will tell you that the Heuer Pasadena is “strongly inspired” by the Porsche Design Chronograph 1, a revolutionary watch designed by Ferdinand Alexander Porsche, better known as the designer of the iconic Porsche 911.
Sinn copied the design of the Orfina Porsche Design as well, starting with the Lemania 5100 powered model 157 and continuing with the 144 (ETA7750) - although there is currently no black version: The most recent one was the 144 St S Jubiläum limited edition from 2014. But I prefer the original:

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😀

The only Sinn watch I own is in fact a stolen (or at least a borrowed) design: The Sinn 103 is a copy of the Breguet XX.

Greg

Don't get me wrong- I'm a big fan of Sinn, both the older watches developed under Helmut Sinn and the current range.

I'm sure that there are two sides to the story, but I guess if you had a fledgling watch company in the 1970s, you had to be "entrepreneurial" in your approach to stay alive!
 
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Stunning!
Looks even better in the flesh! I tried on a Heuer Bund once at my local vintage shop and it feels close (at least to memory).
 
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Dear C11 friends, a Dark Star has arrived in Losinngeles, CA. Enjoy!
Congrats on receiving your watch, it looks great!!! You should've gotten some passport stamps go along with all the cities its been through on the way to LA. LOL. 😉
Thanks for posting those very nice pics. I really like the wrist shots. One detail that appeals to me is how nicely tailored the bund strap fits the contours of the watch. Do you think you'll wear it with the nato straps supplied?
 
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Congrats on receiving your watch, it looks great!!! You should've gotten some passport stamps go along with all the cities its been through on the way to LA. LOL. 😉
Thanks for posting those very nice pics. I really like the wrist shots. One detail that appeals to me is how nicely tailored the bund strap fits the contours of the watch. Do you think you'll wear it with the nato straps supplied?

My pleasure.

You're right, the strap is really nice. It's soft and curves with the bezels quite nicely. I have a medium sized wrist, and was afraid it would sit too high, but it's really a good fit and sits slimmer than expected.

I want to try the natos but I'm much more of a nato fan from afar. The Sinn came with 3 natos. One sand colored one in the Sinn box, and 2 khaki variants in a nice Revolution pouch. The Sinn provided nato seems thicker but all are nice and look to be a great compliment to the lume color.
 
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Dear C11 friends, a Dark Star has arrived in Losinngeles, CA. Enjoy!

Wow- congrats on Ara, that looks fantastic.
I can’t wait to get mine now.
Mine was slated for delivery yesterday and had a call from Fedex to pay my $652 in import taxes. Never whipped my Credit Card out quicker to pay a tax bill in my life.
Kept waiting all day for it to arrive - alas it didn’t make it.
Hoping mine hasn’t gone the way of Ara’s ...
i.e. . Via the Milky Way 😵‍💫
 
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Wow- congrats on Ara, that looks fantastic.
I can’t wait to get mine now.
Mine was slated for delivery yesterday and had a call from Fedex to pay my $652 in import taxes. Never whipped my Credit Card out quicker to pay a tax bill in my life.
Kept waiting all day for it to arrive - alas it didn’t make it.
Hoping mine hasn’t gone the way of Ara’s ...
i.e. . Via the Milky Way 😵‍💫
Wow! $652????!

I had the same reflex when got the import charge alert on Friday via UPS. But it was only $70. I can't believe you had to pay $652. That's crazy.

I hope yours arrives imminently. You're gonna love it.
 
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