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Autavias on offer at Bicester Village (30% discount)
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imagwai
·Could have got away with the Monza. It was comfortable. But it just looked too big to me. The Autavia was way too high, wouldn't fit under my shirt cuff. And a bit long lug to lug. It's the reason I ended up cancelling my order for the C11 Siffert Autavia (that was what prompted my visit, below, to the boutique in the first place!).
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paysdoufs
·Well, there you go.... they can't win
As @imagwai rightly points out, it’s trickier for square-ish watches. I once had a Longines Spirit with a case shape not that different from the 2016 Monza. It was 40mm from 9h to 3h and wore like a treat. That said, this equated already to 44mm from 7h30 to 1h30…
If you make a watch with a similar case shape 2mm larger across, this is going to have a pretty massive visual impact overall.
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Aquagraph
·Call me crazy but the Monzo looks better on Charlie than the Autavia
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imagwai
·Of course they can: Hardly anyone here is complaining about heritage-inspired round watches coming in at between 38 and 40mm 😉
Look I'm only giving my opinion Rob, I don't expect everyone to disagree with it. I just think TAG didn't quite get the Autavia right for several reasons, one of which was the size. I love my 36mm Heuer Carrera reissue, and I think it's a great example of how to do a vintage-inspired piece right. But even I find it a tad small sometimes, and also wish it had Carrera on the dial. They're not dealbreakers for me, though. If it was 42mm, it certainly would be!
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Aquagraph
·So you agree the Monza wasn't too big? 😜
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·I get you Charlie, it's all personal opinion. But I can see why TAG would not be keen to make 36mm watches in the current market. I guess the issue is who are these pieces actually aimed at? It's hard to gauge the market for 36mm watches since they only make them for ladies (technically) and they probably think casual customers in boutiques would maybe like the style but find them too small, especially when they are sat next to other larger watches in the display boxes.
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·It could also be that the feedback from the stores when they made the original re-issues was that people liked them but wanted a slightly larger size to suit modern tastes?
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·After checking the individual websites for these, I found that not all that are listed actually have a TAG Heuer Outlet store within the Premium Outlet mall.
Although Chicago, Las Vegas and Houston Premium Outlets were listed, they apparently don't have a TH Outlet store. The NY, SoCal, and Orlando FL Premium Outlets are the only ones.
Yeah I expected that site to be maybe a bit outdated as TAG has been shuffling their retail strategy
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imagwai
·I get you Charlie, it's all personal opinion. But I can see why TAG would not be keen to make 36mm watches in the current market. I guess the issue is who are these pieces actually aimed at? It's hard to gauge the market for 36mm watches since they only make them for ladies (technically) and they probably think casual customers in boutiques would maybe like the style but find them too small, especially when they are sat next to other larger watches in the display boxes.
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Jim Dollares
·Feels like this thread is getting totally off topic. Shouldn't we go back to discussing how wonderful the three hander Autavias are
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·Feels like this thread is getting totally off topic. Shouldn't we go back to discussing how wonderful the three hander Autavias are
The only thing better than a three hand Autavia is..... a four hand Autavia.
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·I feel it’s more about compromise due to parts-bin watch building, off the shelf movements with running seconds. Thick movements that don’t suit heritage watches, etc
Absolutely. They would probably say they could make what you actually want, but they would make very few due to niche demand and the cost would be very high. Which no one would want to pay. You have to admit they are in a bit of a lose lose situation.
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·Yet, they'll make very limited watches that require unique tooling to create. For example, the Ronnie Peterson Carrera re-edition and the Monaco Riviera. Also, the Carrera x Porsche RS 2.7 has a unique case. If they can do these one offs, they could go the extra mile and develop something that collectors would appreciate more. If Omega and Breitling can do this, I don't see why TAG Heuer can't. They simply choose not to.
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·Yet, they'll make very limited watches that require unique tooling to create. For example, the Ronnie Peterson Carrera re-edition and the Monaco Riviera. Also, the Carrera x Porsche RS 2.7 has a unique case. If they can do these one offs, they could go the extra mile and develop something that collectors would appreciate more. If Omega and Breitling can do this, I don't see why TAG Heuer can't. They simply choose not to.
Fair point. Then I guess it comes down to they don't want to use a case they can't fit the Heuer 02 into?
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Mspeedster
·Fair point. Then I guess it comes down to they don't want to use a case they can't fit the Heuer 02 into?
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·So if they did make a 36mm Carrera, what movement could they use?
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