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·Not pointing fingers or anything but every time TAG release a new watch, our community only has one thing to say... Tudahz be better bruh!!!
I shall retire from here if that’s the case. Sorry
2022 TAG Heuer Aquaracer GMT WBP2010.BA0632
I shall retire from here if that’s the case. Sorry
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·You’ll be surprised to know that I don’t disagree with much you are saying. However, I think the power of Rolex and Tudor marketing and advertising will eventually rule the roost. The crown despite being a mid tier brand is the most known luxury brand in the world to the masses. It doesn’t take a huge leap to see Tudor being the ‘next’ brand to many.
In many ways you are right about ‘in house’ movements not mattering. But when advertising focusses on 72hr power reserves etc, the people that read those adverts will belatedly understand the differences, and eventually a watch purchase will become, partly, driven by those matters which can impact the user experience.
I don’t think this discussion needs to be quite so black and white. Yes, there are watches that punch above their weight spec wise. Would I buy a Tudor P01 - no.
I’m not sure that TAGs will appeal more to the younger generation than tudors in the long term. There’s a reason that designs like the 16710 have enduring appeal across the age spectrum, and I expect tudors to continue to appeal to old and young going fwd. they fill a void that no one filled after Rolex moved on and therefore they will always be popular for that reason. TAG will be the same and there will be a place for both in the marketplace.
Thing is though.... I'd say Rolex is more like TAG than like Tudor. Shiny ceramic bezels etc.... Tudor is for people who pine for the Rolex of old.
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·Not pointing fingers or anything but every time TAG release a new watch, our community only has one thing to say... Tudahz be better bruh!!!
Not only that, but 'ghastly', 'shiny' and 'completely lacking fauxtina'.
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·Nothing to appologize for brobeans, I was just excited about this new gmt and not as excited when I came back to find only Tudor talk in the thread 😁
Yes, well, this forum is largely populated by people who like TAG but love other brands.... which is weird. 'Other Brands' is like the most popular thread here.
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·Nothing to appologize for brobeans, I was just excited about this new gmt and not as excited when I came back to find only Tudor talk in the thread 😁
Nothing to appologize for brobeans, I was just excited about this new gmt and not as excited when I came back to find only Tudor talk in the thread 😁
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·I can't look at those two pics and think anything other than TAG Heuer for the win.
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·For sure most TAG buyers would be aware of Tudor, but considering TAG is 'supposedly' aimed at younger buyers, does the Tudor aesthetic appeal to a lot of them? I could totally understand where a 25 year old guy would think a TAG looked cool, but a Tudor looked old fashioned and possibly a bit boring. I'm not baiting you guys, but you surely see that not many young people who have grown up with technology all around them are that interested in watches that look like their Dad would wear.
BTW, I wonder what social media platform is most popular for the 20 something crowd to discuss watches? It surely isn't these types of forums.
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·True we are a very small sample compared to the larger population of TAG buyers. Still, if statistically scaled, I do believe most TAG buyers are aware of Tudor. We've got people like @McBeardy, who owns a BB58 and has yet to buy a TAG. OTOH, there are others here that only buy (or mostly buy) TAG, but still are very aware of Tudor.
So the real question is how many TAG buyers seriously cross shop Tudor. That would probably be a smaller number, but I think not insignificant.
oh crap they’re on to me!
On this argument, the TH looks modern and in a sea of vintage inspired watches stands out. However much like the Omega Seamaster I think it will become very dated in each reincarnation.
Regarding a GMT how many buyers (not accounting Rolex due to the name) buy a GMT without knowing ‘a fair bit’ about watches. GMT is a function you dont buy for looks, & mainly for usage, & I’d expect many will go for movement specs, rather than looks.
As for not owning a Tag, that’s still being pushed back, expensive loft conversion, Tudor for the other half due before Christmas, and baby number 2 shortly after Christmas. I’m aiming for a new watch when number 2 arrives, it’s just deciding which.
As for the BB58 for me it’s still the best bang for buck watch out there & suites every situation I need for.
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·It's too bad we don't have many (if any) 25 year olds on this forum to get a more valid perspective of what young buyers want these days. From what my ADs tell me, many young buyers just want Rolex because of the status. But since they can't get them, they often turn to Tudor.
BTW, I wonder what social media platform is most popular for the 20 something crowd to discuss watches? It surely isn't these types of forums.
If that is the case then do we assume that is also for status or because they genuinely like them?
I think the 20 something crowd just like looking at pictures....
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·You can be damned sure that AD will say to them, Tudor is owned by Rolex etc etc...
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·I can’t see anything except a fake BLNR. Sorry.
the Tudor does homage a little subtler and better.
At least in Tudor's case they're a part of Rolex, so it's less of a copy, more of a tribute.
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·One other point, Tag used to be the entry gateway brand to Swiss Luxury, especially to a younger audience. The gateway which generally they move on & up from.
I reckon a higher percentage of younger people either want a Rolex, & bypass Tag now days. Maybe the fact they cannot get Rolex they go to Tudor (unsure if this could be AD tactics or not) but also prices between Tag & Tudor aren’t too dissimilar & the Rolex big brother may help.
Saying that let’s be honest they all want Apple & even the Tag Connected probably isn’t going to sway them.
I reckon a higher percentage of younger people either want a Rolex, & bypass Tag now days. Maybe the fact they cannot get Rolex they go to Tudor (unsure if this could be AD tactics or not) but also prices between Tag & Tudor aren’t too dissimilar & the Rolex big brother may help.
Saying that let’s be honest they all want Apple & even the Tag Connected probably isn’t going to sway them.
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·Agreed. First thing that jumped to my mind was the Batman, like @thingziliketoo's.
At least in Tudor's case they're a part of Rolex, so it's less of a copy, more of a tribute.
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·One other point, Tag used to be the entry gateway brand to Swiss Luxury, especially to a younger audience. The gateway which generally they move on & up from.
I reckon a higher percentage of younger people either want a Rolex, & bypass Tag now days. Maybe the fact they cannot get Rolex they go to Tudor (unsure if this could be AD tactics or not) but also prices between Tag & Tudor aren’t too dissimilar & the Rolex big brother may help.
Saying that let’s be honest they all want Apple & even the Tag Connected probably isn’t going to sway them.
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·I will say that I give TAG credit with this latest GMT for trying to do their own thing. It's just that they've got tough competition and the look isn't my cup of tea.
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·It's too bad we don't have many (if any) 25 year olds on this forum to get a more valid perspective of what young buyers want these days. From what my ADs tell me, many young buyers just want Rolex because of the status. But since they can't get them, they often turn to Tudor.
BTW, I wonder what social media platform is most popular for the 20 something crowd to discuss watches? It surely isn't these types of forums.
