Seeking Information -- Heuer 02 Movement

Jeff Stein
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Can anyone recommend a good technical history / description of the Heuer 02 movement?

Lots of places have the brief description with a handful of specifications, but has anyone written about who developed this movement? What was it based on? Key requirements and criteria? Etc., etc., etc.? Was it really a "white board" project or are there known / likely predecessors?

Thanks in advance for your recommendations.

Jeff
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imagwai
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Really no expert on movements at all. But wasn't this based on the earlier CH80 movement, developed and tooled just before Biver took charge of TAG. It was kind of their response to the 1887 (later Heuer 01)/Seiko debacle. If you search CH80 on the forum you might find a bit more info - think it was discussed recently.
 
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wasn't this based on the earlier CH80 movement

Don't forget, that was also originally the Calibre 1969
 
Jeff Stein
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All this is correct -- Cal 1969 became CH80 which became Heuer 02, but very little is written about the technical / design features of these movements, other than the Brunner article, which is in German. I am in the process of translating it now, thanks to my good friend Google.
 
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Jeff Stein Jeff Stein
All this is correct -- Cal 1969 became CH80 which became Heuer 02, but very little is written about the technical / design features of these movements, other than the Brunner article, which is in German. I am in the process of translating it now, thanks to my good friend Google.
I quickly skimmed the Uhrenkosmos article by Gisbert Brunner (a very reputable author in the German-speaking watch world)…

Frankly - I don’t think that one could find anything much better out there. Especially if the key focus is on development history plus tech.
 
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I quickly skimmed the Uhrenkosmos article by Gisbert Brunner (a very reputable author in the German-speaking watch world)…

Frankly - I don’t think that one could find anything much better out there. Especially if the key focus is on development history plus tech.
I agree . . . I have been working through the article, based on Google and two years of college German, and it seems very good.
 
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Little know fact about the H02 - the sound and feel of the winding rotor was based on rusty nails being shaken around in an aluminium can
 
imagwai
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Little know fact about the H02 - the sound and feel of the winding rotor was based on rusty nails being shaken around in an aluminium can
Having spent some time with the new 60th panda now, I can report that the noise and feel are now much improved. I mean you still notice it, but it doesn't sound so cheap, it doesn't spin as freely, and the noise is improved. In fact, my titanium Grand Seiko is pretty much equally noisy.
 
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Having spent some time with the new 60th panda now, I can report that the noise and feel are now much improved. I mean you still notice it, but it doesn't sound so cheap, it doesn't spin as freely, and the noise is improved. In fact, my titanium Grand Seiko is pretty much equally noisy.
I guess TAG Heuer would never admit that they fixed things with the H02 because that would be admitting the movements shipped during the initial five years were kinda shitty. But good that things are improving, hopefully in the next five to ten years it will evolve into a refined reliable luxurious movement 👍
 
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