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·Wow, that's a lot of watches. I'll give more detail shortly, but most of these are original. The last two are not, nor is the third last, fourth last or fifth last.
What's the back story on your collection?
What's the back story on your collection?
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·Wow, that's a lot of watches. I'll give more detail shortly, but most of these are original. The last two are not, nor is the third last, fourth last or fifth last.
What's the back story on your collection?
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·The watches that I have concerns on are the ones below. But this is not the first time that I have seen these debated, and given that its Heuer in the 1970s that we are talking about, I'm always cautious to label things as "fakes".
Many of the designs with question marks over them from this era come with "Chronographe" and "Incabloc" text in the dials. And they almost always use the Valjoux 7733 manual-wind movement, which does indeed have 17 jewels and incabloc shock protection.
At various times I have looked into these dials and cases and each time I find the most likely explanation is that they are not genuine- the only one below that is recognisable is the Black PVD with yellow- in this case, it just looks like someone has modified one of the French made 7765 Valjoux models.
I'm always open to new facts showing otherwise, but I haven't seen any evidence that positively confirms these ever left the factory as genuine Heuers.
Many of the designs with question marks over them from this era come with "Chronographe" and "Incabloc" text in the dials. And they almost always use the Valjoux 7733 manual-wind movement, which does indeed have 17 jewels and incabloc shock protection.
At various times I have looked into these dials and cases and each time I find the most likely explanation is that they are not genuine- the only one below that is recognisable is the Black PVD with yellow- in this case, it just looks like someone has modified one of the French made 7765 Valjoux models.
I'm always open to new facts showing otherwise, but I haven't seen any evidence that positively confirms these ever left the factory as genuine Heuers.
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·The watches that I have concerns on are the ones below. But this is not the first time that I have seen these debated, and given that its Heuer in the 1970s that we are talking about, I'm always cautious to label things as "fakes".
Many of the designs with question marks over them from this era come with "Chronographe" and "Incabloc" text in the dials. And they almost always use the Valjoux 7733 manual-wind movement, which does indeed have 17 jewels and incabloc shock protection.
At various times I have looked into these dials and cases and each time I find the most likely explanation is that they are not genuine- the only one below that is recognisable is the Black PVD with yellow- in this case, it just looks like someone has modified one of the French made 7765 Valjoux models.
I'm always open to new facts showing otherwise, but I haven't seen any evidence that positively confirms these ever left the factory as genuine Heuers.
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·Hi Calibre 11. Thanks for your thoughts on the above , I was made aware that the black pvd watch looked suspicious but not the others. What exactly is amiss with the other watches above and what do you think is wrong/changed ?
I appreciate your assistance and would like to know any information on the genuine watches ,model ,age ..etc.
I am always looking out for Heuer watches for my own collection/use . May I also contact you for advice on Heuer that I see for sale to confirm they are genuine ?
Thanks again for your assistance.
Best regards. Dominic
I appreciate your assistance and would like to know any information on the genuine watches ,model ,age ..etc.
I am always looking out for Heuer watches for my own collection/use . May I also contact you for advice on Heuer that I see for sale to confirm they are genuine ?
Thanks again for your assistance.
Best regards. Dominic
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·Hi Calibre 11. Thanks for your thoughts on the above , I was made aware that the black pvd watch looked suspicious but not the others. What exactly is amiss with the other watches above and what do you think is wrong/changed ?
I appreciate your assistance and would like to know any information on the genuine watches ,model ,age ..etc.
I am always looking out for Heuer watches for my own collection/use . May I also contact you for advice on Heuer that I see for sale to confirm they are genuine ?
Thanks again for your assistance.
Best regards. Dominic
Pleasure Dominic. As best we know, Heuer never used these cases or dials- it's not a matter of one/ two details not being correct. I'm instantly suspicious of any Heuer with "Chronographe and Incabloc"!
This link may also help
https://forums.calibre11.com/threads/unknown-model-or.19199/
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·I guess the key is what research did the watch store do? These watches have never been in a (published) catalogue, so how can anyone say they are confident that they're genuine?
The round examples offer the best prospect of being found genuine, as the dials look spot on. But the squarer case models are less convincing.
I'm always open to evidence showing that they're genuine...but apart from assertions that people "believe" (hope?) they're real, I haven't seen any facts.
The round examples offer the best prospect of being found genuine, as the dials look spot on. But the squarer case models are less convincing.
I'm always open to evidence showing that they're genuine...but apart from assertions that people "believe" (hope?) they're real, I haven't seen any facts.
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