Formula One with weird dial error

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That must have been done on purpose, thats a subtle but a notable difference.
 
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I would assume it's a fake, or is it confirmed as authentic?
 
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Yes and the conclusion was that TAG confirmed it was genuine.
 
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Yes and the conclusion was that TAG confirmed it was genuine.
Do you have a link to the previous discussion?
 
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No, sorry. Just remember the guy saying he'd sent it to TAG and they had confirmed it was real.

Well, he said that... whether it was true or not, who knows?
 
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No, sorry. Just remember the guy saying he'd sent it to TAG and they had confirmed it was real.

Well, he said that... whether it was true or not, who knows?
I find it hard to believe that it's authentic. Especially as it carries the same reference number as the properly logo-ed version.

Any change to a corporate logo is a big deal. If it was done for some marketing collab, like KITH, I think we would've heard about the reason for the color swap.
 
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Here's the update on our forum:

He said it was a manufacturing error.

Still hard to believe TAG could have such lousy quality control. I suppose to the casual TAG consumer, the color swap might be a subtle thing. But historically, red was Heuer's color and green was Techniques d'Avant Garde. So, reversing the colors is a pretty bad manufacturing error. Unless these are painted by hand, I can't see how an automated process could screw that up! 🤦
 
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Here's the update on our forum:

He said it was a manufacturing error.

Still hard to believe TAG could have such lousy quality control. I suppose to the casual TAG consumer, the color swap might be a subtle thing. But historically, red was Heuer's color and green was Techniques d'Avant Garde. So, reversing the colors is a pretty bad manufacturing error. Unless these are painted by hand, I can't see how an automated process could screw that up! 🤦
It is very strange indeed 🤔
 
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Can't help thinking it's total BS. But then again, there's an Air King with two 9s on it. Maybe some Swiss guys at TAG made it for a joke and it got mixed up with the real ones and....
 
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A quick search shows a number of these Red TAGs have been floating around. So, either there's a whole batch with this manufacturing error or it's counterfeit with a copied legit serial number that fooled someone at TAG.

https://watchcharts.com/listing/10055241-box-warranty-card-tag-heuer-tag-heuer-formula-1-chronograph
https://marketplace.watchcharts.com/listing/4038139-fsot-tag-heuer-formula-chronograph-caz101e
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166971452170
 
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The other thing that raises an eyebrow is the box pictured on his Omega forums post. I'm not an expert on all the boxes used for the F1, but it doesn't look right for a new TAG purchased in 2022.

It looks more like the type of box that was used by TAG in the early-mid 2010s, which even had the old style TAG logo. Shown below.
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The other thing that raises an eyebrow is the box pictured on his Omega forums post. I'm not an expert on all the boxes used for the F1, but it doesn't look right for a new TAG purchased in 2022.

It looks more like the type of box that was used by TAG in the early-mid 2010s, which even had the old style TAG logo. Shown below.
I think some ADs just throw watches in whatever boxes they have left. When I bought my Monaco the AD tried to shove it in a standard box with the old TH logo on before I asked if they had any Monaco specific packaging (turns out the employee just didn’t realise certain models came in different boxes).

Nothing sticks out on the pieces linked above to suggest they’re fake, so I’m going to theorise that these are real and the result of a (small) misprinted batch of components that QC failed to spot…or they did and just sold them anyway. Maybe these only ended up being sold through outlet stores (I see this model all the time at my local outlet)?
 
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I think some ADs just throw watches in whatever boxes they have left. When I bought my Monaco the AD tried to shove it in a standard box with the old TH logo on before I asked if they had any Monaco specific packaging (turns out the employee just didn’t realise certain models came in different boxes).

Nothing sticks out on the pieces linked above to suggest they’re fake, so I’m going to theorise that these are real and the result of a (small) misprinted batch of components that QC failed to spot…or they did and just sold them anyway. Maybe these only ended up being sold through outlet stores (I see this model all the time at my local outlet)?
I've taken a close look at a CAZ101E for comparison - without better pictures of the watch in question, I can't say for sure it's fake. The indices (esp. the one next to the date window) and the print on the subdial/chapter ring look off - but it could just be down to the pictures.

Innocent (of being genuine) until proven guilty.
 
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I think some ADs just throw watches in whatever boxes they have left. When I bought my Monaco the AD tried to shove it in a standard box with the old TH logo on before I asked if they had any Monaco specific packaging (turns out the employee just didn’t realise certain models came in different boxes).

Nothing sticks out on the pieces linked above to suggest they’re fake, so I’m going to theorise that these are real and the result of a (small) misprinted batch of components that QC failed to spot…or they did and just sold them anyway. Maybe these only ended up being sold through outlet stores (I see this model all the time at my local outlet)?
I could see an AD mixing up a box, but it would mean they probably had new old stock in inventory to have the old style box laying around. More likely if your Monaco was bought long ago, less likely for a 2022 purchase, but possible.

A box mix up really shouldn't happen, as the outer cover has stickers matching the watches' ref # and its serial number. But I know it happens regardless.
Innocent (of being genuine) until proven guilty.
Ha! So true. Many fake F1s are so good it's nearly impossible to tell by just looking at pictures. This one has something glaringly wrong, so who'd be willing to take a chance based on internet hearsay?

On the one hand, this could be a rare collectable if truly authentic. On the other hand, TAG savvy people spying your prized collectable will think it's fake if they notice the logo. Even if you tell them, "it's a rare manufacturing error, hence super collectable", will they believe you?
 
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Here's another F1 with a different subtle dial difference.
The hash markers on the chapter ring are black, not red. These pictures were posted by a TAG Boutique in Japan in Nov 2023, so I assume it's authentic. Not sure if it's CAZ101E (with another color mishap?) or a different reference that's region specific. Odd. 🤔