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BMW Concept 4 - Triumph or Tragedy?

  1. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Jan 30, 2020

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    Makes me very sad. I love BMW and am in the market for a car at the moment, but I just don't think I could look past that grille no matter how brilliant the car is. Who knows? Maybe in five years time we'll all think that it looks great, but I doubt it. Remember Bangle telling us that we would like the e65 7 series in time? Sorry, but almost 20 years on it still looks terrible.

    It's not just the size of the grille on the 4 (although that's a bad place to start), but also the shape that looks odd and in no way reminiscent of those vertical grilles from the early BMWs.
     
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  2. Hubert

    Hubert TAG Heuer Forums Moderator Staff Member Jan 30, 2020

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    I think the render I posted is an improvement, compared to the concept. And I still believe it may look better in the metal than in pictures.

    Nevertheless, it is certainly polarizing and a huge gamble. We'll have to wait about a year, to see if they'll regret it.
     
  3. abrod520

    abrod520 Jan 31, 2020

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    That's a great-looking coupe ruined by a truly ghastly front end. Given the shit driving experience of modern BMWs I think it's a loser.
     
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  4. imagwai

    imagwai Jan 31, 2020

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    Looks similar to the new 1-series front end/grille. Quite glad my wife got the last generation 1-series given their move to front wheel drive also.
     
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  5. abrod520

    abrod520 Jan 31, 2020

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    Time to switch to Mercedes-Benz; they've been making the better drivers' cars for almost a decade at this point. Especially now that BMW is discontinuing manual transmissions, there's really no reason to choose a BMW over a Mercedes-Benz or an Audi anymore. Just be sure to lease because they're all fragile mechanical trash after 3-5 years.
     
  6. imagwai

    imagwai Jan 31, 2020

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    I already switched my 3 series Touring to a Jag XF Sportbrake. Beautiful car, but yes, am leasing as Jags are not known to be that reliable! As for the wife's car, we own that and will probably keep for a while. She seems to care more about looks, though, rather than driving experience.
     
  7. Pitfitter446

    Pitfitter446 Feb 1, 2020

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    Really, I’m waiting to try a new Z4 roadster in manual, I was told it will be at the dealer soon with a few more miles on it so I can drive it harder than if brand new.
     
  8. abrod520

    abrod520 Feb 2, 2020

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    The manual is only available with the base engine though. If you want the nice powerful one, you’ll have to accept a torque converter automatic.

    The Boxster S with which it competes however....
     
  9. Pitfitter446

    Pitfitter446 Feb 3, 2020

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    Typical, sales staff with poor product knowledge or will to make a call to a prospective customer.
     
  10. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Feb 5, 2020

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  11. Hubert

    Hubert TAG Heuer Forums Moderator Staff Member Feb 6, 2020

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  12. abrod520

    abrod520 Feb 7, 2020

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    Both of those are just ghastly.
     
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  13. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Feb 8, 2020

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  14. Pitfitter446

    Pitfitter446 Feb 9, 2020

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    I suspect not, it looks like the reg plate surround in in place near the bottom of the grille?
     
  15. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Feb 9, 2020

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    I did see that..I'm trying to trick myself into believing that the real thing will look better
     
  16. Pitfitter446

    Pitfitter446 Feb 10, 2020

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    You can't see the front from behind the wheel?
     
  17. Hubert

    Hubert TAG Heuer Forums Moderator Staff Member Mar 3, 2020

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    i4 series concept
     
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    Ara Mar 4, 2020

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  19. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Mar 4, 2020

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    Yes, I did see this. Another move from BMW I just don't understand.

    The i4 is OK- but take off that horrible grill and the badges and it could come from any brand

    1200px-BMW_logo_2020.jpg

    You need to see the badge on the car to get the full impact.

    bmw-logo-2020-1583084471.jpg
     
  20. Ara

    Ara Mar 4, 2020

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    Might look better in person. As a designer, I like the minimalism. But need to see it in the metal. Could be one of those things that grow on ya.